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In my area Century Link has a 250G cap, but they don't appear to enforce it.  Looks like the cap is raised to 300G for the folks in Yakima that are being subject to this experiment.

 

http://www.centurylink.com/aboutus/legal/internetservicemanagement.html

 

http://internethelp.centurylink.com/internethelp/pdf/EUP.pdf

 

But there is no tool on their web site to track/manage usage.  Although looking at the FAQ they will be sending some sort of online notification at 65 and 85%.

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post #52 of 67
So as speeds increase, companies and government becomes more oppressive, essentially counteracting any progress we make technology wise. We're rolling back in time, not forward. This is disheartening.
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Originally Posted by Avonosac View Post

I was really talking more about a crowd funded lan. So many times there are neighborhoods and developments outside service areas...

I guess it would come down to getting a business line and discussing what you intend to do with the provider ahead of time for that kind of situation.

I see what you are talking about....

There are ways of legally doing what you are asking, and I have been part of it in the past for several locations. In the example you are talking, it isn't too difficult (although a bit pricey) to get a Business or Enterprise level connection at a location, back-haul it out, and create a larger private LAN behind it. The private networks are then ran as associations/co-ops. The only drawback is the lack of public IP addresses you could provide to end user systems, however that wouldn't impact 99% of home users anyways.

I have seen several communities pool resources to establish a back-haul to their location in order to ditch Sat, or dial-up level services. Opting to, in a sense, be their own ISP.

A lot of effort has been made by the very large providers, and their blatant oligopoly, to lock out competition and information to the end user. That information lockout even includes the reality that long range Point-to-Point for back-haul is a many decades old technology that is pretty damn inexpensive. It isn't overly difficult to learn, but does require experience and some effort to pick up successfully, but is still doable!

Hell, the providers are so lazy and dedicated to locking out expansion and others, while keeping the illusion of competition, that they won't even put 5-Ghz wireless line extenders on their taps at end points to reach customers they physically aren't extended to! As that would require they shatter the lie about network limitations that really don't exist.

Now, of course the above really is applicable to only the largest providers. Unfortunately because of their actions, small providers are extremely limited on technology and fair access to fiber as well, rowing the same boat as even our own end users. Things have gotten so bad on the larger scale, that basically smaller providers are just middlemen.

I digress,

A private back-haul for more remote communities isn't impossible, and has been done before.
    
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Whoa whoa whoa, this is the first time I have ever heard of a "powerline network adapter". After doing some quick research this sounds like a way easier method to get my desktop PC up and running with comparable speeds as if I just re-did the wiring in my apartment. Plus my building was built in 2013, so the wiring should be quality enough to support a powerline network adapter... This is very interesting, I had no idea something like this was even possible.

Do you get horrible ping times when using a device like this, or is it similar to what you would get if you were on Wi-Fi?

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I played Rocket League with this setup and the lag was comparable to WiFi.
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I just use a Verizon MiFi for my home internet, I get about 30Mbps down and up.
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No, the frequency used isn't impacted by weather, also in this application the beam width itself is so narrow that even noise is non-issue. Especially now given the FCC has opened up spectrum specifically for PtP use only.

What kind of hardware is used? Antennas / routers / etc? How much power are these devices transmitting it? I figure for UHF/SHF at 35 miles with line of sight (from a tall building, for example) it has to be at least a couple hundred watts.
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So as speeds increase, companies and government becomes more oppressive, essentially counteracting any progress we make technology wise. We're rolling back in time, not forward. This is disheartening.

most isp's fear losing their cable tv monopoly.

they've only had one for about 50 years.

the more people cut the cable the less profit.

and as we all know if cable companies don't make a profit everyone suffers.
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I played Rocket League with this setup and the lag was comparable to WiFi.

Hmm, that wouldn't be bad at all considering my ping on my home Wi-Fi is around 40ms (still bad, I know). I did a ton of research last night after learning about these devices and settled on buying the Extollo LANSocket 1500 (Amazon Link) as it had the best reviews all around and uses the newest technology inside. As far as networking equipment goes the starter kit (two devices) was fairly cheap at $90. So, if the lag or connection reliability is too bad, then I will just mark them down as a loss and go back to plan A of re-doing the wiring in the apartment myself.

Thanks for bringing these "powerline network adapters" to my attention though!

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Cool, that should work well. I have the Netgear AV500 kit, so the newer 1500 tech should be much faster.
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I see what you are talking about....

There are ways of legally doing what you are asking, and I have been part of it in the past for several locations. In the example you are talking, it isn't too difficult (although a bit pricey) to get a Business or Enterprise level connection at a location, back-haul it out, and create a larger private LAN behind it. The private networks are then ran as associations/co-ops. The only drawback is the lack of public IP addresses you could provide to end user systems, however that wouldn't impact 99% of home users anyways.

I have seen several communities pool resources to establish a back-haul to their location in order to ditch Sat, or dial-up level services. Opting to, in a sense, be their own ISP.

A lot of effort has been made by the very large providers, and their blatant oligopoly, to lock out competition and information to the end user. That information lockout even includes the reality that long range Point-to-Point for back-haul is a many decades old technology that is pretty damn inexpensive. It isn't overly difficult to learn, but does require experience and some effort to pick up successfully, but is still doable!

Hell, the providers are so lazy and dedicated to locking out expansion and others, while keeping the illusion of competition, that they won't even put 5-Ghz wireless line extenders on their taps at end points to reach customers they physically aren't extended to! As that would require they shatter the lie about network limitations that really don't exist.

Now, of course the above really is applicable to only the largest providers. Unfortunately because of their actions, small providers are extremely limited on technology and fair access to fiber as well, rowing the same boat as even our own end users. Things have gotten so bad on the larger scale, that basically smaller providers are just middlemen.

I digress,

A private back-haul for more remote communities isn't impossible, and has been done before.


Yea, I asked you because I know you have a lot of specific knowledge on how the ISPs are lying and screwing us.

I don't have as much experience to draw on, but discussing the large ISP's and their ridiculous lies to laymen generally produces a very noticeable tick on my face as I refrain from raising my voice..
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