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What is the best Linux distro currently?
Based on the question, probably Mint. https://www.linuxmint.com. Is debian based with a very windows like control scheme
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For a normal end-user, m$ are making it "impossible" to disable those things and I would agree it should not have to come down to this but you can force delete Cortana and basically every UWP-based app, just go and find the packages. (C:\Windows\WindowsApps is a good place to start) I might create a thread shortly after the anniversary update rolls out on all the known locations I know where the UWP app data is stored and what can be deleted. (I have been removing the metro apps along with cortana ever since I got 10 back even in the early days... M$ "respawn" the files every build update along with adding more in different locations which then I get the fun of sitting there for a few days hunting them down with process explorer and regedit... Not that I have anything better to do right now lol)
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She'll just have to deal with Windows 10 I guess then
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I don't license any software, I buy it and thus I own it. If M$py don't like it they can collectively jump off a cliff, good riddance.

Well, when you buy a software, you are buying a license to use it. Legally, you don't own it. In fact, there *may* be old CDs with games or other software in your house that aren't valid anymore. You should uninstall such software and break the CDs.

Of course, you can not care and laugh at the law. I am laughing at it right now.
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Aah I knew I had screwed up when I didn't roll back to Windows 7...
     
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Well it is getting more and more likely that with the new SSD incoming soon i will reinstall 7 instead of 10.
I was willing to give MS some time to improve 10 but it seems they seem most focused on taking control over your PC.
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I don't license any software, I buy it and thus I own it. If M$py don't like it they can collectively jump off a cliff, good riddance.

Some one honestly doesn't understand contract law. MS never gave you ownership of the software; they granted you ownership of a license to use that software. Thus, you do not own it and are nothing more than a licensee. Or in layman's example: Windows is an apartment building and you are a tenant of MS. That clear it up?
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Err... aren't you a little late for that? The 29 July "free" offer deadline was last Friday, today is Sunday.

Of course you can now move the goalposts like you just did (and so can Microsoft...) and say something along the lines of "yeah right, hmpf... but you will move sooner or later, just you wait until the next promotion, they'll get ya!"

Whatever suits your view.

I'm still using Windows 7 and will take my time to move to Linux. I paid for my retail Windows 7 license, I intend to make use of it until I want to. Make no mistake, I will move to Linux unless Microsoft does a complete 180 on all the lack of options for telemetry / updates / ads / visuals / user control and privacy in general and provide in writing, thus in their EULA / Privacy Policy and whatever other applicable documents, that those options will not be removed for the next 10 years, regardless of 2nd or 3rd or whatever Anniversary or non-Anniversary updates. Anything less than that and it's bye bye Microsoft from me. It's non-negotiable.

PS; at tpi2007
I hope you do follow through with the Linux move and that our lively debate isn't putting me on the block list. I just get a little too into the argument and sometimes lose it when people complain and don't do the easy things (I assume, probably incorrectly, they're easy because I'm borderline disabled and can do them) to help themselves out.

I'm not late at all. I wasn't tying myself down to the free update so there's no moving goal posts there. Strawman all you like, the thesis is that people will complain a lot but as long as their computers come with Windows installed, most devs make software exclusively for Windows, and most hardware companies make drivers exclusively for Windows these complainers will simply hop on eventually. They may even do it happily like the people who were against Vista but wrote fanfiction about Win7. I was stating that whatever method it happens it will happen because people are lazy and will sacrifice the fewest things (EVEN IF those few things are something they deem important). In this case people will never risk going without (insert long running chain of excuses that they use as a reason to stick to Windows besides simple preference) even if it costs them losing control of their computer or privacy. This is why things are the way they are in the mobile industry and this is how they will trend to in most industries (even B2B given enough time).

Honestly, Win10 is the best that MS has done and I've found ways to block most of the complaints others and myself have come across. I can kill cortana (take ownership of the exe, rename it, kill active instance, goodbye cortana) if I want but then I'll lose META + S. I can block ads in skype using Windows' own internet options panel. I can purge the Windows Store and any Windows Store app with admin powershell and this template Get-AppxPackage *(INSERT APP NAME HERE)* | Remove-AppxPackage. But I guess the difference is I don't feel my back up against a wall like most people because I'm reporting what little info I can to some devs in the Linux world so I can hopefully not have to have Win10 much longer as I get Linux drivers worked out for my laptop. Once I get that all fixed up I'll be full time in Linux again like I have been for the last 6 years. It hasn't been perfect or easy but I stood for my principals and saw changes. Maybe these people who feel betrayed by MS should actually do that as well. Who knows if enough of them actually did maybe MS would change or at least we'd get better support on Linux.


Unfortunately, I do feel my back against a wall with freaking Intel Management Engine firmware/spyware but I guess that will be the next stand people have to fight against.
     
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I don't license any software, I buy it and thus I own it. If M$py don't like it they can collectively jump off a cliff, good riddance.

Some one honestly doesn't understand contract law. MS never gave you ownership of the software; they granted you ownership of a license to use that software. Thus, you do not own it and are nothing more than a licensee. Or in layman's example: Windows is an apartment building and you are a tenant of MS. That clear it up?

And someone honestly doesn't understand that US (mis)law doesn't apply to the universe and beyond.

 

Do you license your underwear or own it? How about your socks or shoes? Is there a law anywhere that says you can't sew in red threads in white socks if you feel like it? There very well could be an EULA that says so but considering M$py wouldn't be caught dead trying to enforce their worthless EULA's anywhere (they can't even enforce them in the US) this entire discussion is rendered null and void as US law only applies in the US.

 

In China when you buy something you own it, which is why I live in China and not in the great Western world where you license your life.

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And someone honestly doesn't understand that US (mis)law doesn't apply to the universe and beyond.

Do you license your underwear or own it? How about your socks or shoes? Is there a law anywhere that says you can't sew in red threads in white socks if you feel like it? There very well could be an EULA that says so but considering M$py wouldn't be caught dead trying to enforce their worthless EULA's anywhere (they can't even enforce them in the US) this entire discussion is rendered null and void as US law only applies in the US.

In China when you buy something you own it, which is why I live in China and not in the great Western world where you license your life.

i dont think you understand what you saying

to own a software is to have its source code and be able to change it as you please (like the underwear you can change or do with them as you please)
however in windows case you dont own the software hence you cant change it, you dont get access to it source code and so on.
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I was starting to wonder where the China-is-great post of the day was.
    
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