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The more users switching, the more support it will get eventually.

That may be a fair point, but otherwise I don't follow your logic. Why would I move from one product that causes me discomfort to another product that causes me discomfort, as opposed to moving back into my comfort zone ie. Windows 7 (and to a slightly lesser degree, 8.1)?
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Man, you guys know how to complain. How many of you have considered just finally switching over to Linux? The more users switching, the more support it will get eventually. There are only handful of users which absolutely cannot switch but for most users, the only thing stopping them is mild discomfort and not willing to leave their comfort zone.

EXACTLY why waste so much time and energy complaining about what Redmond is doing to you.

You should instead invest all that time into learning a new Linux Installation and by now, you would of got your work done quickly with no regards to what Microsoft will do to their sheeple users.

Time to finally adapt or perish, it's all your own choice when it comes to infecting your PCs with Redmond's Future Garbage known as Trojan 10.
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Man, you guys know how to complain. How many of you have considered just finally switching over to Linux? The more users switching, the more support it will get eventually. There are only handful of users which absolutely cannot switch but for most users, the only thing stopping them is mild discomfort and not willing to leave their comfort zone.

macOS being another alternative but is exclusive to Apple's hardware (not including hackintosh).

I already use Linux for most of my browsing, however not everyone can easily switch to Linux. Adobe have so far refused to release Linux versions of their software so anyone using their products is stuck with Windows.

 

Edit: M$py are really begging for more lawsuits. This version of Win Spy deletes partitions so anyone who loses data is  going to love Win Spy.


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Man, you guys know how to complain. How many of you have considered just finally switching over to Linux? The more users switching, the more support it will get eventually. There are only handful of users which absolutely cannot switch but for most users, the only thing stopping them is mild discomfort and not willing to leave their comfort zone...

A Lot of people have software that doesn't have versions one can use in Linux. For example, I have a $600 music notation program that is available only in Windows and Mac (and Mac is not an option for me). I will probably have to run it in a Win 7 VM once I switch to Linux. I have other programs that I won't be able to run in Linux for which there may or may not be a Linux equivalent.
     
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You know, if XP supported ECDSA I would say that there's actually nothing wrong with XP for your average casual PC user. OCN likes to crap on XP for some reason but considering probably 50% of home computers are just facebook and music machines XP would work just fine.

My grandmother has been using an Athlon XP with 512 MB of ram to read her emails for the past 15 years or so. I don't see why windows 7 can't last another 10 years for your casual users, and most gamers. Windows 7 supports 192 GB of RAM, and even if we were limited to hardware available right now (we won't be), a pair of 8890 v4's will be cheap in 5 years, and that would net you 96 threads. I bet those specs would smash whatever your average Windows 10.9999 computer will be in 2021.
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You know, if XP supported ECDSA I would say that there's actually nothing wrong with XP for your average casual PC user. OCN likes to crap on XP for some reason but considering probably 50% of home computers are just facebook and music machines XP would work just fine.

People also like to lay on the hyperbole about XP "performing slow" on modern hardware (I hear this nonsense all the time), and while it will certainly be slower than modern operating systems, it's still much faster on modern hardware than it was on period hardware, and not slow by any means.

There are some deal breakers for me however, like the lack of TRIM support and difficulty with drivers on modern hardware.
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That may be a fair point, but otherwise I don't follow your logic. Why would I move from one product that causes me discomfort to another product that causes me discomfort, as opposed to moving back into my comfort zone ie. Windows 7 (and to a slightly lesser degree)?

And what is your plan after the W7 support ends? The only reason why Linux feels mildly uncomfortable for most people is because they know Windows. If we'd just take this great step towards Linux and welcome it, people would be surprised how quickly the adapt.

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EXACTLY why waste so much time and energy complaining about what Redmond is doing to you.

You should instead invest all that time into learning a new Linux Installation and by now, you would of got your work done quickly with no regards to what Microsoft will do to their sheeple users.

Time to finally adapt or perish, it's all your own choice when it comes to infecting your PCs with Redmond's Future Garbage known as Trojan 10.

I'm sensing both genuine and sarcasm at the same time. But like I said in the reply above, people are comfortable with Windows because they know Windows, Microsoft knows this and is taking great advantage on the matter by making the OS absolutely bloated with malware because hey.. what are the people going to do? Switch to this free, community driven, stable alternative? Nah.. that would take about a week or two of adjusting and that's too much for most people.

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I already use Linux for most of my browsing, however not everyone can easily switch to Linux. Adobe have so far refused to release Linux versions of their software so anyone using their products is stuck with Windows.

Edit: M$py are really begging for more lawsuits. This version of Win Spy deletes partitions so anyone who loses data is  going to love Win Spy.

I understand that not everyone can switch, but a great majority of users, (+98% ? I don't know..) don't use any real tools or software. For those who use professional tools, that's a little bit tougher, surely VM could solve some of the problems but I doubt that even I would switch if I'd be required to use VM for everything.
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A Lot of people have software that doesn't have versions one can use in Linux. For example, I have a $600 music notation program that is available only in Windows and Mac (and Mac is not an option for me). I will probably have to run it in a Win 7 VM once I switch to Linux. I have other programs that I won't be able to run in Linux for which there may or may not be a Linux equivalent.

I completely understand your case, I was just referring to people which don't use any tools/software more advanced than a browser.
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Is there a guide to clean up Win 10? My PC has downloaded games and apps and a ton of crap after this update!

Personally, this time and on the second clean installation, I just right-clicked on each App and uninstalled it that way. For those which this was impossible I used CCleaner Pro. I think that you should not remove the newly added Store Purchase App because then the rest of the Apps will not update. I kept Calculator only and it could not update.
    
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And what is your plan after the W7 support ends?

Move to Windows 8.1, (my post was supposed to say "and to a slightly lesser degree, 8.1", because 8.1's superficial UI problems make it only slightly less comfortable than 7, and I still prefer it over 10) and when 8.1 support ends I will re-evaluate the situation. 2023 is a long time away, and who knows what could happen by then.

Of course I'll always be monitoring 10 in the hope that Microsoft will pull their heads out of their arses and address the fundamental issues it has, and I'll probably keep it on a gaming PC where long-term stability/consistency isn't so important.
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The only reason why Linux feels mildly uncomfortable for most people is because they know Windows.

No, it's not that. Linux is uncomfortable to use because of software compatibility (mostly games).
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Move to Windows 8.1, (my post was supposed to say "and to a slightly lesser degree, 8.1", because 8.1's superficial UI problems make it only slightly less comfortable than 7, and I still prefer it over 10) and when 8.1 support ends I will re-evaluate the situation. 2023 is a long time away, and who knows what could happen by then.

Of course I'll always be monitoring 10 in the hope that Microsoft will pull their heads out of their arses and address the fundamental issues it has, and I'll probably keep it on a gaming PC where long-term stability/consistency isn't so important.
No, it's not that. Linux is uncomfortable to use because of software compatibility (mostly games).

Seriously I use win 8 at office and I dont think it is better than win 10 at all I have 5 win 10 at 2 home. Jist take the free upgrade and move on or use the real different one like ubuntu.
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