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Gaming companies do support Linux. Deep Silver, Codemasters, Paradox Interactive, Square Enix, Relic Entertainment, 2K Games are the biggest ones.

It's a chicken or the egg scenario. Many gaming publishers don't release linux games because of it's limited market, but people are reluctant to switch to linux because there isn't enough games.

They do but currently only through OpenGL which runs horribly.
Game developers will need to put the extra work in order to transfer games and recompile everything to linux, either through OpenGL or vulkan.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX#Release_history


history will tell you if an OS got exclusivity. its been historically done by Microsoft for a LONG time. PC gaming wasn't as big back then, so it wasn't as big of a problem since more modern times.
Your link just proves my point. W95 got up to DX8.0a, W98SE up to DX9.0 and XP up to DX9.0c. It's only with Vista and DX10 that a DX version got held back, and also now with DX12 and W10. In any case DX was pretty irrelevant before 7.0 anyway. OpenGL and GLIDE were far more popular during the early days
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They do but currently only through OpenGL which runs horribly.
Game developers will need to put the extra work in order to transfer games and recompile everything to linux, either through OpenGL or vulkan.
Actually there are a few games that run rather well(mostly on Nvidia). The issue is probably more with how the games are coded initially for DX, rather than a general OpenGL problem.
Edited by Disharmonic - 7/30/16 at 1:56am
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This is really getting freaking ridiculous.
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I've been biding my time, waiting on windows 7 as 10 holds no real benefit for me yet. Don't know what im going to do when things start needing 10 more seriously (like new GPUs and games). Suppose i could dual boot but thats such a hassle.

Seems every time i check the forums i see something terrible like this about 10. I really hate where they've gone. Starting to hate microsoft for the same reasons i hate apple.
    
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Every month or so I am tempted to install W10 on my main machine and start using it as my main OS. But then I read one of these threads and then my desire to use it just dies out instantly.

So, Win 7, it looks like me and you are going to be together for a while longer.
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I dont really see a huge issue here UNLESS the Turn off Microsoft consumer experiences one re-installs, r force installs crap, i dont think it does, but shall see


I wonder how many people outside of nuts like us look in GP anyway? And even fewer who use it properly
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But wait, THERE'S MOAR!

In addition to some Group Policies, Windows 10 Pro also loses App-V and UE-V for the Anniversary Update
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Organizations that went with Windows 10 Pro’s free upgrade (instead of paying for Windows 10 Enterprise) and rely on Microsoft App-V to deliver remote apps to their users or UE-V to allow users to seamlessly transition from device to device and maintain their app settings, are out of luck.

It is a particularly shady move by Microsoft because companies that upgraded to Windows 10 Pro really can’t go back to Windows 7 or 8.1 now. And, if they still want access to App-V and UE-V, they have to migrate to Windows 10 Enterprise. That means paying for the new OS and taking the time to move once again. Their other option is to integrate a brand new application virtualization product such as VMware ThinApp, but that change is a hassle too.

Rep+ goes to tpi2007 for making this info more widely available than my forum post in the other thread. thumb.gif
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Time for a class action.
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This isn't going to hold up and Microsoft will change it just as they were forced to add privacy controls back when 10 came out due to backlash. Microsoft doing everything they can to screw themselves up in the windows foothold and that's fine, Linux will just clean up. Sometimes makes me wonder how brain dead these top managers/executives at Microsoft's windows division really are.
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Hmm, I don't see Win 10 Ent being sold (What name is it under for retail?). Other then technet where can one get Win10 Ent and how much does it cost?

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Found something about MS business model and I ask everyone to read it as it makes sense to me
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Microsoft officials have gone public with bits of the servicing-branch story over the past several months. But some of the company's reseller partners are seemingly privy to more of the story and are starting to talk, too. Here's what I'm hearing and starting to piece together, at this point.

There are going to be three Windows 10 servicing branches when the product launches: Current Branch (CB), Current Branch for Business (CBB) and Long Term Servicing Branch (LTSB). Different versions of Windows 10 will give users access to different servicing branches.

Those running Windows 10 Home will have just one choice -- the Current Branch. That means those users will have to take any new features, fixes and security updates that Microsoft pushes to them via Windows Update. (They will be pushed after Windows Insiders and Microsoft itself tests them.) Windows 10 Home users won't have the option of delaying or deferring anything. And for many consumers, that will be OK, if not welcome.

Those running Windows 10 Pro are going to have two options: Current Branch or Current Branch for Business. The CB means, as with Home, that users will have to take all feature fixes and security updates as they're made available by Microsoft via Windows Update. But the CBB option will give Pro users more flexibility about when they apply the new features, fixes and security updates from Microsoft.

So Home and Pro Win10 appears to be on just the Current Branch. How does one get Win 10 Pro on current Branch for Business without a volume license purchase?
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Those who are on Windows 10 Enterprise -- the most expensive and most fully-featured version of Windows 10 (and one that's available only to Volume Licensees) -- get the most choice.

Enterprise customers can mix and match. They'll be able to have any or all of their users on the Current Branch with immediate updates delivered via Windows Update. They'll be able to have any or all of their users on the CBB with the option to use Windows Update for Business or WSUS to get their updates, with the aforementioned right to delay the delivery of new features for a bit. Windows 10 Enterprise users also will be the only group to have access to the Long Term Servicing Branch. This branch allows users to take only security fixes and defer taking any new features and to handle them via Windows Update for Business and/or WSUS.

Date of Article May 14, 2015
http://www.zdnet.com/article/piecing-together-the-windows-as-a-service-puzzle-for-windows-10/


But Wait there is more...
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Microsoft is making Windows 10 available for free for the first year to consumers with Windows 7 Service Pack 1 and Windows 8.1 as of July 29, 2015. This is a limited time promotion that expires on July 29, 2016. Once the promotion ends, Microsoft will start charging Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 users to upgrade to Windows 10.

Once users are on Windows 10, they will receive security updates, hot fixes and new features on a rolling basis for no additional charge. Microsoft won't charge users for these updates. Instead, Microsoft will charge users who don't want to adopt the new feature updates it makes available to Windows 10 by requiring them to be running Windows 10 Enterprise, which offers a Long Term Servicing Branch.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-goes-public-with-retail-pricing-for-windows-10-home-pro/


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Microsoft is also going to offer "Current branch for Business," which is aimed at customers who are willing to receive not just the regular security updates to Windows 10, but also feature updates "after their quality and application compatibility has been assessed in the consumer market." Users on this branch will give IT departments time to validate updates before they deploy them to their employees. Customers using this branch will have the option to receive updates automatically, via Windows Update or via WSUS.

Microsoft is expected to provide customers who take advantage of the free Windows 10 promotion with regular, free feature and security updates on an ongoing basis via Windows Update, most likely with little or no opportunity to decline or delay either.

Officials reiterated that Microsoft is designing Windows 10 to have the same overall minimum hardware requirements as Windows 7 and Windows 8, while noting that "some new features may require new hardware capabilities, and software or firmware updates from device manufacturers and ISVs."
http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-gives-business-users-more-windows-10-upgrade-details-guidance/

What more needs to be said. This says it all.
Edited by EastCoast - 7/30/16 at 10:09am
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