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 Fine with me, we only deploy enterprise in the enterprise anyways.

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I'm using Win10 Education edition. I have Windows Update disabled via policy (due to my limited internet access). If I were to install the Anniversary update, will I lose this policy editor? Or am I just loosing the 3 policies stated by OP?
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Am the only one who dont understand those thing?


Never seen a popup or a publicity on my 4 install of windows 10 pro.
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Originally Posted by EastCoast View Post

Hmm, I don't see Win 10 Ent being sold (What name is it under for retail?). Other then technet where can one get Win10 Ent and how much does it cost?

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Found something about MS business model and I ask everyone to read it as it makes sense to me
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Microsoft officials have gone public with bits of the servicing-branch story over the past several months. But some of the company's reseller partners are seemingly privy to more of the story and are starting to talk, too. Here's what I'm hearing and starting to piece together, at this point.

There are going to be three Windows 10 servicing branches when the product launches: Current Branch (CB), Current Branch for Business (CBB) and Long Term Servicing Branch (LTSB). Different versions of Windows 10 will give users access to different servicing branches.

Those running Windows 10 Home will have just one choice -- the Current Branch. That means those users will have to take any new features, fixes and security updates that Microsoft pushes to them via Windows Update. (They will be pushed after Windows Insiders and Microsoft itself tests them.) Windows 10 Home users won't have the option of delaying or deferring anything. And for many consumers, that will be OK, if not welcome.

Those running Windows 10 Pro are going to have two options: Current Branch or Current Branch for Business. The CB means, as with Home, that users will have to take all feature fixes and security updates as they're made available by Microsoft via Windows Update. But the CBB option will give Pro users more flexibility about when they apply the new features, fixes and security updates from Microsoft.

So Home and Pro Win10 appears to be on just the Current Branch. How does one get Win 10 Pro on current Branch for Business without a volume license purchase?
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Those who are on Windows 10 Enterprise -- the most expensive and most fully-featured version of Windows 10 (and one that's available only to Volume Licensees) -- get the most choice.

Enterprise customers can mix and match. They'll be able to have any or all of their users on the Current Branch with immediate updates delivered via Windows Update. They'll be able to have any or all of their users on the CBB with the option to use Windows Update for Business or WSUS to get their updates, with the aforementioned right to delay the delivery of new features for a bit. Windows 10 Enterprise users also will be the only group to have access to the Long Term Servicing Branch. This branch allows users to take only security fixes and defer taking any new features and to handle them via Windows Update for Business and/or WSUS.

Date of Article May 14, 2015
http://www.zdnet.com/article/piecing-together-the-windows-as-a-service-puzzle-for-windows-10/


But Wait there is more...
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Microsoft is making Windows 10 available for free for the first year to consumers with Windows 7 Service Pack 1 and Windows 8.1 as of July 29, 2015. This is a limited time promotion that expires on July 29, 2016. Once the promotion ends, Microsoft will start charging Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 users to upgrade to Windows 10.

Once users are on Windows 10, they will receive security updates, hot fixes and new features on a rolling basis for no additional charge. Microsoft won't charge users for these updates. Instead, Microsoft will charge users who don't want to adopt the new feature updates it makes available to Windows 10 by requiring them to be running Windows 10 Enterprise, which offers a Long Term Servicing Branch.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-goes-public-with-retail-pricing-for-windows-10-home-pro/


Furthermore,
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Microsoft is also going to offer "Current branch for Business," which is aimed at customers who are willing to receive not just the regular security updates to Windows 10, but also feature updates "after their quality and application compatibility has been assessed in the consumer market." Users on this branch will give IT departments time to validate updates before they deploy them to their employees. Customers using this branch will have the option to receive updates automatically, via Windows Update or via WSUS.

Microsoft is expected to provide customers who take advantage of the free Windows 10 promotion with regular, free feature and security updates on an ongoing basis via Windows Update, most likely with little or no opportunity to decline or delay either.

Officials reiterated that Microsoft is designing Windows 10 to have the same overall minimum hardware requirements as Windows 7 and Windows 8, while noting that "some new features may require new hardware capabilities, and software or firmware updates from device manufacturers and ISVs."
http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-gives-business-users-more-windows-10-upgrade-details-guidance/

What more needs to be said. This says it all.

What it comes down to is that you no longer own your copy of Windows, M$py decide which features you will, or won't have. If they don't like a certain feature they can easily remove it without warning, as they have done several times already. Is this acceptable to Enterprise? To have M$py dictate to them what they get or don't get and when they get it?

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Guys, in my country we do not have Win 10 Ent, we were offered Win 10 Pro for a VDI project (for the terminals), server is running 2008. Also, i am as well running Enterprise. Overall, Windows 10 has lots of bugs. If i start my RDP - it will crash right away, due to some Registry bug. I gotta go to HKLM/Current control set/../../UserSwitch and disable the autocredential saving to avoid the instant crash. After reboot, the key value turns back to normal. SFC and chkdsk are no good... Not to mention that even i am using local Administrator, i am unable to delete useless crap from ProgramFiles and System32... Everything is set to TrustedInstaller and the owner/permissions cannot be changed in any way i tried.
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Not to mention that even i am using local Administrator, i am unable to delete useless crap from ProgramFiles and System32... Everything is set to TrustedInstaller and the owner/permissions cannot be changed in any way i tried.

That looks like you are using laptop, probably from Lenovo. (or pre-built desktop from some vendor)
Edited by BobiBolivia - 7/31/16 at 4:35am
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Originally Posted by BobiBolivia View Post

That looks like you are using laptop, probably from Lenovo. (or pre-built desktop from some vendor)
Nope that is standard in windows 10. I have the same on my desktop.
The way to get out around it is make yourself owner of those folders and then you can mess around in them but that has potential to break stuff.
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All I can say at this point without triggering the mod intervention is "Holy Crap!". I did expect them to do this ofc, but damn that is fast. I expected them to do it in few years.
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I totally agree, if I ever use Win Spy it will be Enterprise. I definitely won't Win LOL (Home) or Win Fail (Pro).

You assume that "enterprise" edition wont follow the same route wink.gif

I would not be so sure, for example, few years back I was surprised when I was installing a server version of 8 by a friking touch interface slappin me in the face. Like for real, a touch interface on a server edition? So I would say that it is a matter of time until MS gets around installing candy crush on enterprise editions as well wink.gif
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So what happens if you just disable the offending services manually in services.msc? As an example, there seems to be a lot of hoop jumping needed to disable updates. Couldn't you just disable Windows Update in services and be done with it?

I don't use 10 so no idea about all of this.
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