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post #21 of 33
Yes 60hz is cheaper to buy vs 144hz but with a 60 hz monitor even the mouse lags on the screen, not to mention everything else aswell.
post #22 of 33
Buy a $450 video card and a 1440p monitor now

OR

Buy a $700 video card now and a 4k monitor later

Both are about the same price? Will 4k displays drop over $150 below current 1440p displays, or will there be some sort of unprecedented inflation of the dollar that makes everyone's money worth like 25% less over night?

Facts:

-Buying a more expensive card now and a more expensive monitor later costs more than buying a cheaper card and cheaper monitor today.
-The 1080 is not some sort of magical card that can drive over 100% more pixels than the 1070. The 1080 is nowhere near capable of being a 4k capable single card unless you want to compromise on settings. 980TI/1070 SLI is bare minimum for 4k.
-If a 1080 is enough for you to be happy at 4k, then you need less than a 1070 to be happy at 1440p.
-"1ms" and 144hz are TOTALLY different measurements. COMPLETELY unrelated. I guarantee your current monitor is 60hz if you're saying there's no difference.
-A GTX 1070/1440p combo will absolutely outlast a GTX 1080/4k combo in terms of performance in future games. The 1080 can't even handle current games at 4k, let alone future ones.
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post #23 of 33
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Originally Posted by pewpewlazer View Post

Buy a $450 video card and a 1440p monitor now

OR

Buy a $700 video card now and a 4k monitor later

Both are about the same price? Will 4k displays drop over $150 below current 1440p displays, or will there be some sort of unprecedented inflation of the dollar that makes everyone's money worth like 25% less over night?

Facts:

-Buying a more expensive card now and a more expensive monitor now costs more than buying a cheaper card and cheaper monitor today.
-The 1080 is not some sort of magical card that can drive over 100% more pixels than the 1070. The 1080 is nowhere near capable of being a 4k capable single card unless you want to compromise on settings. 980TI/1070 SLI is bare minimum for 4k.
-If a 1080 is enough for you to be happy at 4k, then you need less than a 1070 to be happy at 1440p.
-"1ms" and 144hz are TOTALLY different measurements. COMPLETELY unrelated. I guarantee your current monitor is 60hz if you're saying there's no difference.
-A GTX 1070/1440p combo will absolutely outlast a GTX 1080/4k combo in terms of performance in future games. The 1080 can't even handle current games at 4k, let alone future ones.

I would bet 4k monitors will be much cheaper around black friday.
post #24 of 33
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I would bet 4k monitors will be much cheaper around black friday.

I paid $390 for my 27" 1440p display 3 years ago. You can get one today for around $290.

I paid $550 for my 40" 4k display 3 months ago. You can get one today for around $550.

You still bet they'll be cheaper in a few months?
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I paid $390 for my 27" 1440p display 3 years ago. You can get one today for around $290.

I paid $550 for my 40" 4k display 3 months ago. You can get one today for around $550.

You still bet they'll be cheaper in a few months?

Yep black Friday through Christmas.. if not, after Christmas.


Did you get a korean 4k 40"?
post #26 of 33
2160P(4K) at only 60hz is a poor choice in gaming resolutions atm due to the limitations of display port 1.2.

Even with display port 1.3 or greater that will likely allow 2160P over 100hz, your still probably a lot better off with a single GTX 1080 running naively at 1440P over 2160P, due to the much higher frame rates.

Maybe in a few generations of GPU's and display port 1.3 or great 4k be a good choice. but I think that's 3 years away for the average gamer with limited pockets, and sure 4K is doable now if your into a mediocre gaming experience.
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post #27 of 33
I'd take a 144hz 1440p over a 60hz 4k all day every day.

Hell Id take a 1080p 144hz over a current 4k monitor.

Refresh rate is where it's at in my opinion.
post #28 of 33
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I'd take a 144hz 1440p over a 60hz 4k all day every day.

Hell Id take a 1080p 144hz over a current 4k monitor.

Refresh rate is where it's at in my opinion.

a lot of ppl think this way too

http://www.overclock.net/t/1606345/s2716dg-to-xb271hk-upgrade-or-downgrade
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1080 and 1440p. The 1080 is not a 4k card with maxed settings. Maybe by this time next year. We might have a powerful single card solution for 4k max settings. But, even then doubting it. 2018 at the earliest. Even 1440p max settings can be very demanding for a 1080. And none of the newer games are out yet. Especially the ones coming out next year. They are only going to get more demanding.

980Ti/1080 @1440p is the sweet spot and where to be right now. 4k gaming monitors have not even come close to hitting their full stride yet either. Very limited to what they can do and selection. Compared to 1440 options. Just to give you an idea. The Witcher 3 max settings with hairworks on cannot maintain 60fps+ constantly even with a 1080.

Spec wise Titan XP (that is to be released tomorrow ) is a 4k@60 fps card, especially if you overclock. Of course to some giving $1200 for just 60 fps is crazy, so one is better to wait, but -yeah- it does look like tomorrow we are getting the first 4k single card for those that are interested to that kind of thing...
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Spec wise Titan XP (that is to be released tomorrow ) is a 4k@60 fps card, especially if you overclock. Of course to some giving $1200 for just 60 fps is crazy, so one is better to wait, but -yeah- it does look like tomorrow we are getting the first 4k single card for those that are interested to that kind of thing...

Make that $1200 + water block and additional water cooling gear if needed. That is the first card I'd feel comfortable with at 4k.

I need to correct something said earlier; MSAA shouldn't be called an intense AA method. It hasn't been intense since Fermi. The issue comes with specific game implementations and/or poor compatibility with deferred rendering. MSAA + deferred rendering is intensive on all hardware yes, it should never be used. It is a mistake for modern games to include MSAA in the first place since it only targets geometry aliasing while modern games suffer most from shader aliasing.

GTX 1070 won't have a problem at 1440p barring things like supersampling, MSAA + deferred rendering, or global illumination.
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