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For example if I buy a brand new HDD that was made 10 years and start using today will it's life expectancy be just as long if I would have start using it when I first bought 10 years ago ? Basically I'm asking does shelf life degrade the HDD even without using it ?
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No, shelf life does not degrade HDDs, at least to the extend of my knowledge.
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I think it depends on how the drive was handled and stored.
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I think it depends on how the drive was handled and stored.

"Shelf life" assumes proper handling and storage.
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Here's a twist on the question above say it was used for about a year then stored on a shelf for 9 years would it be like still have a long life expectancy almost like a brand new HDD ?
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Here's a twist on the question above say it was used for about a year then stored on a shelf for 9 years would it be like still have a long life expectancy almost like a brand new HDD ?

If it has no structural damage, so dust and water particles can't get in, and it was used and handled properly, and was not stored in areas of high electromagnetism or gamma radiation, it will have the life expectancy of that particular model's official life expectancy minus 1 year.
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Here's what Toshiba says on page 28 of the manual for their enterprise MK2002xxxx series of disk drives:

"Even if the HDDs are used intermittently, the longest service life is 5 years.

The maximum storage period without turning the power on is six months."
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Here's what Toshiba says on page 28 of the manual for their enterprise MK2002xxxx series of disk drives:

"Even if the HDDs are used intermittently, the longest service life is 5 years.

The maximum storage period without turning the power on is six months."

How does that make sense? If you use it, life is 5 years (also, 5 years lol biggrin.gif that's pathetic), if you don't use it, life is 6 months? Does it use the power to generate a plasma shield around it and power the self-repair nanobots? biggrin.gif
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Here's what Toshiba says on page 28 of the manual for their enterprise MK2002xxxx series of disk drives:

"Even if the HDDs are used intermittently, the longest service life is 5 years.

The maximum storage period without turning the power on is six months."

How does that make sense? If you use it, life is 5 years (also, 5 years lol biggrin.gif that's pathetic), if you don't use it, life is 6 months? Does it use the power to generate a plasma shield around it and power the self-repair nanobots? biggrin.gif
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How does that make sense? If you use it, life is 5 years (also, 5 years lol biggrin.gif that's pathetic), if you don't use it, life is 6 months? Does it use the power to generate a plasma shield around it and power the self-repair nanobots? biggrin.gif
I'm guessing hard drives are like cars, which need to be driven every week to prevent spoilage. In the case of hard drives that may mean pumping the spindle motor bearing oil, stirring the grease in the head arm bearings, and charging up electrolytic capacitors. However I don't think drives made in the past ~10 years have electrolytics but instead use ceramic capacitors, which don't spoil.
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