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I was wondering why this thread is moving so fast biggrin.gif

i am sure those tech news sites tend to mess up with that terminology more than half the time. Its technically wrong but when i hear people say 2x faster, i generally accept it as being 200% of original speed.

100% this, pun intended.

There is perfectly good explanations here but I just can't believe that in correct english "1x faster" means "twice as fast". Everywhere where I see the phrase "2x faster" it means twice as fast.
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Buyers of the new Titan X will be 200% faster rushing into conclusions that DP performance is future-proofing their epeen over the pathetic cut-down GP100 & GP102 losers. rolleyes.gif

Which is even funnier given that this Titan X with GP102 doesn't have good DP performance, at 1/32 just like GP104.
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I was wondering why this thread is moving so fast biggrin.gif

i am sure those tech news sites tend to mess up with that terminology more than half the time. Its technically wrong but when i hear people say 2x faster, i generally accept it as being 200% of original speed.

100% this, pun intended.

There is perfectly good explanations here but I just can't believe that in correct english "1x faster" means "twice as fast". Everywhere where I see the phrase "2x faster" it means twice as fast.

And I cannot believe that people cannot see the difference between the phrases:

2x faster = what it was before *2.
x% faster = what it was before + x% of what it was before => If it was 35% faster, it would be 1.35x the original performance etc. The fast-er means above and beyond the "original performance", thus the 1.00x or 100% of the original performance is "included". 100% faster = 100% of the original, as a given, + 100% of the original = 2x original speed.

If you say 200% faster IT IS NOT 2x as fast...it is as fast as it was + 200% of what it was before = 100% of the original performance + 200% increase = 300% of the original performance, or 3x as fast as the original.

Sorry, but it is a convenient truth that out-of-scale graphs and miss-represented % work fine for marketing & laymen's perception, and thus are abused.
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I was wondering why this thread is moving so fast biggrin.gif

i am sure those tech news sites tend to mess up with that terminology more than half the time. Its technically wrong but when i hear people say 2x faster, i generally accept it as being 200% of original speed.

100% this, pun intended.

There is perfectly good explanations here but I just can't believe that in correct english "1x faster" means "twice as fast". Everywhere where I see the phrase "2x faster" it means twice as fast.
That's because you've been reading sentences written by people with "bad terminology".

The fact that the "english way" of saying things seems weird to you isn't because English is weird; your information is just wrong.
    
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Buyers of the new Titan X will be 200% faster rushing into conclusions that DP performance is future-proofing their epeen over the pathetic cut-down GP100 & GP102 losers. rolleyes.gif

You still misunderstood. The new Titan X is the fastest GPU in the world period.
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post #96 of 123
If 2x faster means twice as fast, then what is the same speed?

Wouldn't it be mis-leading if you call it 1x faster?

What would be 0x faster?
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this was getting so embarrassing (not us) i quit posting here hours ago.....all literally comes to "what does the word faster mean, in comparison to just fast"

Once you realize adding "er" actually means more, the story really should have ended right there. Simply couldn't understand how it could carry on for so long

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Everywhere where I see the phrase "2x faster" it means twice as fast.

OMG where?

Are there laws in the US about consumer product claims like this? Probably could have acquired a few hundred thousand dollars every case with just a proper lawyer and an English teacher with educational sources.
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err no its been a year we are meant to get faster stuff for the same price lol
EXACTLY. OT again, but this is the reason why i got so disappointed in the RX 480 custom prices

it was attractive at 199 but then i didnt want to deal with that power consumption and heat

its.....manageable at 239 for the 8GB version, although I don't believe it would need all that memory seeing the card really isnt that strong in performance to begin with, so 4GB at 199 still preferred imo.

And the only solution for the high power and temps, the customs, starts around 260 from all the way to like 300. That literally cancels the progress we should have been making in the past 18 months, seeing it is currently just a tiny bit better than a 970.

And people still say AMD placed the card well (where it should be in terms of performance and price, etc). Would have agreed if the card isn't so power hungry and hot, then everyone could just get a reference card and call it a day.
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post #98 of 123
Almost 100 posts and there's literally around 5 posts discussing the actual article rofl.
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This is the worst most entertaining discussion I've ever seen so far on OCN....biggrin.gif

FTFY biggrin.gif
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Almost 100 posts and there's literally around 5 posts discussing the actual article rofl.
FTFY biggrin.gif

You getting the Titan XP? It's half as fast as a card 400% faster than the Titan X. tongue.gif
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Can a native speaker please answer without sarcasm.

If someone says "2x faster" it's ambiguous but the consensus seems to be that it's 3 times as fast.

When someone says "2 times faster" is it the same as "2x faster" and it is 3 times as fast?
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