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post #11 of 20
Ensure that the unit is connected to and testing something that can contain a reasonable volume of air as some air will leak by the time you undo the pump.

If you are testing something small you may not have enough time to quickly remove the pump due to the small volume of air present which is quickly lost.
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post #12 of 20
That comment was only towards the video. It is the second time now that I see such a video where someone uses it the wrong way. If others adopt this they will always fail (also if the device itself is OK). Well, seems we will have to apply red stickers to the manometer with a note about removing the pump. "RTFM" as text should be sufficient biggrin.gifwink.gif

btw: I am Sven so I know your case.

--- Update ---



Oh yeah teaching.gif
Edited by Shoggy - 8/3/16 at 3:17am
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LOL

Glad to know it was a user error. I was planning to buy this, then i saw Daz's video. Made me hesitant about it, but its back on my list thumb.gif
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post #14 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by BelowAverageIQ View Post

Thank you for the idea and setup B Negative!

I have received correspondence from Aquacomputer. They are sending out two new lower pieces, that way I just need to connect the manometer and hopefully have two working Dr. Drops.

Cheers

Its 'Sven' that should be thanking me for the idea.......sadly,they never do when you give companies ideas.....
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post #15 of 20
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Originally Posted by B NEGATIVE View Post


Its 'Sven' that should be thanking me for the idea.......sadly,they never do when you give companies ideas.....

Well I'll Thank you B! I used your guide to make mine! I did order this one for the small form factor. So far it has worked great.
post #16 of 20
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Originally Posted by B NEGATIVE View Post


Its 'Sven' that should be thanking me for the idea.......sadly,they never do when you give companies ideas.....
Why should I thank you? We have not copied anything from you. If you would not exist, Dr. Drop would still do - exactly the same way as it is at the same time.

The even more funny thing here is that in another forum also someone claimed we have copied an idea from him. Maybe I should get you in touch with him so you can fight out who was first because I think you copied him - joking of course, but I guess you understand what I am up to. Luckily a few thousand years ago someone invented the wheel, otherwise we would not have it till today wink.gif
Edited by Shoggy - 8/5/16 at 12:47am
post #17 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by BelowAverageIQ View Post

Hi Shoggy,

I have been removing the pump. By the time it was removed the needle would reach zero. I "spoke" with Sven yesterday and confirmed that with him.

Can take a video if you like?

Cheers

Quote:
Originally Posted by Costas View Post

Ensure that the unit is connected to and testing something that can contain a reasonable volume of air as some air will leak by the time you undo the pump.

If you are testing something small you may not have enough time to quickly remove the pump due to the small volume of air present which is quickly lost.

A Birzman pump with a Snap-It Apogee valve connector is the solution to the small volume problem.
The pump I linked is 183 mm tall (stowed position) and 31 mm in diameter.

For a schrader valve (type on Dr. Drop) you connect it by screwing onto the valve, as normal, and pump to pressure.
When you go to disconnect, you first pull the collar back allowing the valve stem to seat and seal, then you unscrew the valve connector without pressure loss.
Click HERE for a clip showing the operation (the second half for Schrader valve is pertinent).

Here is a 230 mm, 3/8" ID tube section set to 0.5 bar.


Edit: One additional advantage over the pump available with Dr. Drop is the 80 mm flexible hose between the pump and the valve head, reducing movement transfered to the gauge.
Edited by InfoSeeker - 4/25/17 at 11:53am
post #18 of 20
Very interesting but at $40 you better get some use out of it: https://www.coloradocyclist.com/birzman-velocity-apogee-mtb-mini-pump

Are there lower cost versions?
post #19 of 20
The one you linked to is actually $4.00 off ($36.00) on spring sale atm.

I believe Birzman is the only one with this type valve connector, and they have patents in several countries to protect their property rights.
Patents are listed at the end of THIS clip.

I bought mine on eBay for $31.23, but that seller has none listed now.

If you haven't bought the Dr. Drop yet, buy the version sans pump & save $13.00... ModMyMods has them available.

Edit: Just saw the seller on eBay has one pump left at $32.30, but it is the greenish version.
Edited by InfoSeeker - 4/27/17 at 4:40pm
post #20 of 20
Interesting, I might pick this up when it is time to build my next loop.
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