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Very interesting interview, not a live interview, just the narration of the interview. Confirmed for the umpteenth time that Vulkan(as well as DX12) that Mantle was the base of the API(12:33) despite many in this very forum denying it.
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Q: AMD’s Robert Hallock had told us in a previous interview that AMD had donated their Mantle API to Khronos to help ‘ jumpstart the process of bringing Vulkan to life’. Can you tell us how the conversation started and how Mantle helped your team kick start the project, and insight into the API evolution over time?

Tom: “Sure. The Khronos committee process is really good at rubbing the rough edges off an existing specification, but it isn’t very good at coming up with a brand-new API from scratch. That’s a major reason why our early, pre-2014 discussions went slowly. When the effort moved into high gear in 2014, we knew we needed a place to start. There were some initial conversations between AMD and ARM. A couple of weeks before our first organizational meeting (at Valve’s office in Bellevue), senior AMD technologists contacted us to explore whether Mantle could provide that starting point – basically asking if we were willing to commit to its goals and philosophy, even if we had to change a lot of mechanism. We did some all-nighters reading their spec, and in the end it was clear that it was a great fit. We voted to adopt it as our starting point at the Bellevue meeting. It was a huge boost, both technically and psychologically; we went into the meeting saying “how are we going to do this”, and came away saying “damn, this is going to work”.

http://www.redgamingtech.com/the-vulkan-interview-exclusive-interview-with-the-khronos-group/
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Base and "starting point" are different.

People are just arguing about the distinction based on the color of their GPU.

Regardless I'm not convinced Vulkan is going to gain any real traction on PC. I hope it does but so far it seems like iD is still the main pusher of OGL/Vulkan based software and everyone else is still on Dx.
    
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Base and "starting point" are different.

How to split hairs 101.
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How to split hairs 101.

Right that's the point I'm making.
    
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How to split hairs 101.
Isn't the entire point that some people believe DX12 was in development prior to Mantle? Or is this some other petty NV vs AMD argument?

Not that it really matters, this was an interesting read that had absolutely nothing to do with that. I don't think anyone has argued that Mantle wasn't used as a base for Vulkan.
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i never recall anyone denying that vulkan was based off mantle. now where does it say that dx12 is based on mantle?
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Who on earth denied that AMD practically made Vulkan? That's very annoying that people would say something like that when it's staring them in the face. The fanboyism is worse here than I thought.
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I really hope Vulkan takes off on Android, and overthrows DX12 on the PC.

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Originally Posted by jtom320 View Post

Base and "starting point" are different.

People are just arguing about the distinction based on the color of their GPU.

Regardless I'm not convinced Vulkan is going to gain any real traction on PC. I hope it does but so far it seems like iD is still the main pusher of OGL/Vulkan based software and everyone else is still on Dx.

Valve is pushing what again..?

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Regardless, Vulkan is good for the industry, therefore good for us.

   
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