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That's always been the case. I started benchmarking and got into the overclocking scene sometime in 2007, and hardware triage was already well widespread.

   
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Make KingPin purchase EVGA 1080 Classified from a random retailer. EVGA could promote it's "What you see, what you get". I think people like to see that over EVGA sending cherry picked hardware to KingPin to overclock with.

People want to see LN2 OCers break records, whether they use cherry pick hardware or not don't matter at all.
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It's interesting what people like KingPin can do with hardware, but i don't use benchmark scores to decide which hardware i purchase.


There are people who don't use F1 or other Car Racing records to make their Super Car purchase decision either, doesn't stop Ferrari and the likes to field teams in those events.
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I doubt that 50-100 figure. You are definitely over-reacting in that regard.
Even wanting to break a record, evga will not let him mess around with 50-100 cards they could sell instead for over 50K$.
Most likely he got 10-20 max to mess around, kill a few, and set the record as good as he could.
I only see 9 cards of 680s in there. not a lab full or a 50-100 choice. So no need to be so dramatic about it.

They can send him as many as they want. For EVGA's account those cards are only worth the production cost and I'm not up to date with the BOM on the latest cards but 100 cards ain't that much for a stunt like this.

It's the same as if Intel had an official overclocker and some dimwit stopped sending him a healthy amount of CPUs because they could hit a high retail price.

The important figure here is how much the cost to assemble is and for Intel it's pennies, for a company like EVGA I bet it's pretty close to the cost of the GPU itself if they don't have a better deal with Nv because of the exclusivity and all.
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Interesting that the LN2 1080 was still only running on 1.093 VDDC, seems like a volt modded bios for Classy isn't available yet.

and couple days before someone breaks that with a LN2 Titan XP

you don't use software for voltage readings since it reads what the driver reports. to get an accurate measurement -use a DMM.
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We already saw that:




This was Kingpin overclocking a FOUNDERS edition 1080 reference card to 2,835mhz with 12,404mhz memory OC as well. This is on a reference board, not a cherry picked custom 16+3 phase Kingpin Classified card etc.. just the standard 5+1 phase single 8 pin 180 watt reference board.

That is not a 5+1 phase, it is a 14 phase EPower used with the reference design board. Please stop giving out so much false information
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But...doh.gif
This is about records breaking.
Your statement is like saying "I'm not impressed with the 200m runners until normal people compete instead of top rank athletes"...

Even if you buy an off the shelf classy card, you will most likely not put it on LN2 anyway, so its not like it has any meaning whats-so-ever to the market.

I'd say its more like picking a group of professional athletes, then pumping one of them full of steroids and looking at the results. Sure it would be awesome to see just how fast a top athlete could be with performance enhancing drugs, but compared to the rest of the professionals, its not really that exciting to compare, because the playing ground is not at all equal.

Basically I like seeing these records, but I can't give them as much recognition because its not a fair playing field. Do you expect most overclockers in a OC competition without a sponsor giving them cherry picked cards to be able to compete with ppl like Kingpin who gets a bunch of the best of the best cherry picked samples to try to get every possible bit of performance out of? No.

So yea, interesting and impressive score, but its clearly not all him, so not nearly as impressive as someone who bought the card themselves and did it.

I would think this is what the other poster was talking about.
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My statement is about cherry picked hardware that doesn't give true representation of the product. It's not about normal people vs professionals. I would be more impressed, if KingPin could break records, with hardware purchased from retailers, instead of being handed cherry picked hardware. EVGA tests factory overclocked cards to make sure they can run stable at x overclock and within x temps, they can spot the best cards in each batch they test. KingPin receives the cream of the crop to benchmark with.

It's interesting what people like KingPin can do with hardware, but i don't use benchmark scores to decide which hardware i purchase.

Normal people push retail hardware on hwbot.org all the time.
Stop complaining & start researching.

They are plenty of retail results on 980Ti Kingpin/Matrix/Lightning on bot. 1080 not so much because the custom cards aren't out yet, when they will launch, the results will follow.
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