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Originally Posted by sherlock View Post

480 wasn't that well received on prominent sites like Techreport and PCPer compared to 1060, they all hammered it on Power Consumption, PCIE overdraw(little publicity on its fix), hot running, 4GB and AIB avaliablity & limited OC room. Whereas 1060 was imo universally better received with its low power draw, higher OC room, AIB avaliablity at launch and its DX 12 performance gets swipped under the rug. In the end I'd say AMD lost the marekting round on 480 vs 1060.

We will see if the trend continues with 460/470, the one thing Nvidia consistently does since Titan is have provide a better Reference card than AMD and since most major site's most popular review is done Ref vs Ref this puts Nvidia further ahead than they are(290/290X hobbled by their bad blower & quiet mode in reviews comes to mind).

Why do you think that is?
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will never happen

havent people learned with the hype trains by now ?
nope, 2017




as for DX12



you were saying ?









480 is competitive and becomes a lot more competitive in dx12.

but hey i'm sure you will cherry pick more dx12 benchmarks to paint the 480 in a bad light like i cherry picked benchmarks to paint it in a better light. or simply claim there wasn't any cherry picking, but hey.

i'll leave this thread with a quote from overclock3d that sums it up:
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The RX480 as a single card is perfectly fine. It's GTX 1060 levels of performance at a very affordable price.

Edited by orlfman - 8/2/16 at 3:53pm
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post #33 of 73

The ONLY bench that matters is Battlefield One & Vulkan....   the RX480 does good there, what does the 1060 do..?  (ARMA?)

 

Ideally, whatever those scores ends up being between the two, is exactly how the high-end cards will duke it out over the $499 market, & the $699 market. And I think that is why the Titan launched so early...  Nvidia knows what AMD is about to drop.

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I posted 1060 OC results, not just stock

the small DX12 gap closes because 1060 OCs better than even custom 480s wink.gif
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post #35 of 73
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Why do you think that is?

The 1060 > 480 performance edge is not as big in DX 12 as it is in DX 11, a fact seldomly mentioned in most reviews.

Why? Because AMD Marketing is not in the same league as Nvidia Marketing, big websites loves to praise Nvidia and minces words about any good thing AMD does. Been that way ever since AMD offended every major website(espically techreport which pointed this issue out and started half a year of AMD PR denial) with the benchmarking fiasco known as Catalyst 12.11 beta driver which boosted FPS in exchange for terrible frame time.
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post #36 of 73
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The 1060 > 480 performance edge is not as big in DX 12 as it is in DX 11, a fact seldomly mentioned in most reviews.

Why? Because AMD Marketing is not in the same league as Nvidia Marketing, big websites loves to praise Nvidia and minces words about any good thing AMD does. Been that way ever since AMD offended every major website(espically techreport which pointed this issue out and started half a year of AMD PR denial) with the benchmarking fiasco known as Catalyst 12.11 beta driver which boosted FPS in exchange for terrible frame time.

Exactly. Most review sites are simply a marketing arm of these companies nowadays. I'd go further and say shilling for these companies.
Now not every single reviewer is, there are still some left with some integrity, but they still have editors that must approve their articles.
Gone are the days of unbiased reviews unless you really want to spend the time looking through user reviews, which will involve waiting on retail to make it into user's hands. Then ask for numbers of particular different applications that user may or may not have.

It's quite disappointing that more users don't post up personal reviews as much anymore, for this site you must peruse through thousands of posts in the owner's club threads.

It's a shame more people don't see this. Journalistic integrity is pretty much MIA.
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The 1060 > 480 performance edge is not as big in DX 12 as it is in DX 11, a fact seldomly mentioned in most reviews.
the real prob here isnt that, the real problem is AIB 8gb RX480 cost as much as AIB 1060.

I couldnt see any reason to buy RX480 over 1060 at those price range.
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"17.2% of the market is owned by the three most popular "DX12" GPU (970/960/750Ti)"

correct me if im wrong but arnt these gpu's dx11 not dx12?

i woulndt be surprised to see that nvidia dominates the steam user scores. its not like nvidia advertises on steam or anything. ive yet to see an amd add
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the real prob here isnt that, the real problem is AIB 8gb RX480 cost as much as AIB 1060.

I couldnt see any reason to buy RX480 over 1060 at those price range.

Point me to the dual fan, normal sized 1060 with rgb led, back plate, and dual bios that costs $270

The 480 performs the same so far regardless of card same as the 1060. If say the EVGA SC+ or ftw runs $270 or less and outperforms the 480 i'll be on it, rooting for AMD from in front of GeForce powered graphics. But as it is now, only the cheap 1060 cards are less than the 2 480 customs but this is why I'm still patiently waiting. Hopefully full lineup for both are finally out before bf1 launch

Edit: I actually had high hopes for the zotac AMP but they really let me down with that design. frown.gif
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Point me to the dual fan, normal sized 1060 with rgb led, back plate, and dual bios that costs $270

The 480 performs the same so far regardless of card same as the 1060. If say the EVGA SC+ or ftw runs $270 or less and outperforms the 480 i'll be on it, rooting for AMD from in front of GeForce powered graphics. But as it is now, only the cheap 1060 cards are less than the 2 480 customs but this is why I'm still patiently waiting. Hopefully full lineup for both are finally out before bf1 launch

Edit: I actually had high hopes for the zotac AMP but they really let me down with that design. frown.gif

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125879&cm_re=Gigabyte_1060-_-14-125-879-_-Product

$250 with dual fan and backplate, normal size, this card had been on sale since launch day and have gone in and out of stock frequently like all other 1060s. Not sure why you need rgb led and dual bios, that's vanity item for people buying flagship GPUs.

Why would you even need 2 fans to cool a 120W card is another mystery rolleyes.gif
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