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I guess this is what happens when there is a lack of benchmarks on benchmark thread lol.
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and here i thought i was making a studious observation. mad.gif

If this was reddit I'd be inclined to agree. But THIS. IS. OCN!!!.
*sigh*

i know, i keep confusing it with THG*. redface.gif

*where troubleshooting always involves spending money.
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If this was reddit I'd be inclined to agree. But THIS. IS. OCN!!!.

Well this isn't unlike a thread in the cooling section where Custom Loopers abuse the heck out of CLCers or CLCers poke fun at Dual Tower users, etc. Or back in the day 120Hz TN vs 1440p IPS cross sniping was going on in the Monitor section(With the customary "I can't go back to 60 FPS" vs " I can't go back to TN" cliche spamming all the rage).. People go to great length to defend things they spent $$$s on, it is not enough that they feel justified about the purchase, they must convince everyone else their decision is justified.
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*sigh*

i know, i keep confusing it with THG*. redface.gif

*where troubleshooting always involves spending money.

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Well this isn't unlike a thread in the cooling section where Custom Loopers abuse the heck out of CLCers or CLCers poke fun at Dual Tower users, etc. Or back in the day 120Hz TN vs 1440p IPS cross sniping was going on in the Monitor section(With the customary "I can't go back to 60 FPS" vs " I can't go back to TN" cliche spamming all the rage).. People go to great length to defend things they spent $$$s on, it is not enough that they feel justified about the purchase, they must convince everyone else their decision is justified.

Oh hell you just described why I pretty much stopped posting in the WC section. The amount of CLC hate is just surreal.
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The term enthusiast has been used to describe high end products and people who buy the highest end products for a long time in the PC world. Yes, you can still be an enthusiast and not have the best of the best but nowadays most people don't see someone with a mid range computer as an enthusiast.

No, the definition of enthusiast in any hobby is having a burning interest in said subject. You don't have to spend a dime on it.
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PC Enthusiast = hobby

You don't have to have the highest end components, it just means you enjoy building PCs, gaming, maximizing performance out of your hardware, being knowledgeable about components, knowledge about component history, etc..

An enthusiast can have the highest end system today or a system from 5 years ago.

If GPU prices triple and quadruple that closes the door on a lot of enthusiasts who used to be able to afford them, and when they do complain about prices as every enthusiast should, the only guys rich or foolish enough to have them are telling them to buy consoles or play in their own lane. Sorry, but the lanes are all closing. The only lanes available these days are severely cut down midrange products when just a few short years ago more people were able to buy the highest end single gpu cards for the almost the same prices as a junk card that's 4th down today's list. Sorry, but that's disgusting.

Enjoy your $1500 "full Titans", just remember that they used to cost $499 less than 5 years ago.
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I was talking in general, not towards him.

I know the definition, and I am saying someone who is an enthusiast tends to spend lots of money on things they enjoy. The biggest enthusiast tend to buy the best hardware, because they enjoy the hobby so much they save money for it. Like you said, many companies now use the term for high end products so the definition of the word has been a bit fuzzy lately.

I don't believe that most of the people complaining can't afford this. Put aside $50/m, by the time the next flagship rolls around you basically have the money after reselling your old card. I also don't believe that most people here can't afford to save, because OCN members tend to have pretty high end computers to begin with.

My point is that a true enthusiasts generally finds a way to get the best hardware, either by saving or by getting a better paying job to support their hobby. I've always associated the term with the people who are the most dedicated. So let's just agree to disagree on what the word "enthusiast" means when it comes to PCs.
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An enthusiast is always going to buy the best hardware on the market.
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You think enthusiasts are willing to compromise that much? It seems you don't understand the target audience of this card.
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You should go play on consoles if you really care that little about performance and graphics. It's cheaper.

Right, agree to disagree.
 
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I was talking in general, not towards him.

I know the definition, and I am saying someone who is an enthusiast tends to spend lots of money on things they enjoy. The biggest enthusiast tend to buy the best hardware, because they enjoy the hobby so much they save money for it. Like you said, many companies now use the term for high end products so the definition of the word has been a bit fuzzy lately.

I don't believe that most of the people complaining can't afford this. Put aside $50/m, by the time the next flagship rolls around you basically have the money after reselling your old card. I also don't believe that most people here can't afford to save, because OCN members tend to have pretty high end computers to begin with.

My point is that a true enthusiasts generally finds a way to get the best hardware, either by saving or by getting a better paying job to support their hobby. I've always associated the term with the people who are the most dedicated. So let's just agree to disagree on what the word "enthusiast" means when it comes to PCs.

Enthusiast = rich. when it comes to pc gaming.

The actual meaning has been lost. just look at overclocking. it was for those who cannot buy fastest cpu/gpu but had enough skills and knowledge to overclock the 2nd best and get performance of the best. now it's completely opposite. now you can't even overclock cheaper parts and you have to pay for something which was free some time ago. and now we have people who say to others get a titan or you don't belong here ? i mean what the heck happened. mad.gif
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The saddest thing is seeing people who can afford this card belittling other gaming enthusiasts (the other 90%) who are rightly criticizing Nvidia's insane pricing.

"lol.....i can afford it if you criticize the price it means you're poor, why not get a console loser hahahah"

No, the pricing is fricken ridiculous. Same with GP104.

There would be hordes of people buying 1080's if it wasn't for the $700 price tag. There would be many buying Titan X if it cost like it used to, $499.

Gamers are being shafted and the only thing some of these rich guys do is slam others for not being able to afford it when just a few years ago many of them could.

Seeing fellow gamers do the bidding for this greedy company is the worst.

Yep, all completely true, you bet i would buy a flagship for $499. Hell make it $599 just to account for the inflation. Instead $500 buys you a mid range chip, even this $1200 Titan isn't the full GP100, Would love to see AMD come out with a full die vega for $600 that matches this Titan. Similar to how the 290x did with the original Titan, only to be undermined by all the miners driving the price of it up, no pun intended.
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I have enough cash in my bank account right now to buy two of these Titan X's, a new Rampage V, 6950X, 64GB of Corsair Dominator DDR4, and a TB 950 Pro to upgrade my rig (I know because I recently put together two different wishlists on NE because I got a temporary upgrade itch). If this was a couple of years ago I'd have already hit the "Buy it now" links to all of this stuff and been pacing around the house watching the tracking every 5 minutes but lately I have reevaluated my hardware priorities based on a real world evaluation of my gaming habits and realized that I simply don't do any where enough of it to justify spending the kind of money I used to. As of right now I haven't even played a single game on my PC for over 2 weeks and even when i do its either some screwing around in GTA V (a game I play way more often on my PS3) or replaying BFBC2 or one of the Crysis's. I would love to buy all that stuff and do some serious benching like I used to do as well but $5000+ in hardware is just too much money for me to drop just to get to the top of the OCN benching section these days. The more I think about finally upgrading my aging hardware the more I realize that my rig simply works just fine as is for what I do with it and the desire fades. I also prefer to spend my money on my bike these days (getting a new Bell Race Star once they release as well as some new levers). But I do envy you guys that snagged the new Titan and concede that you will end up with one hell of a beastly rig once you get them installed! I just no longer have the desire to spend more than $500-600 on a single video card anymore, especially while my OG Titans still do everything well enough for what limited use I put them to.

One thing is for sure, for the first time there is no resolution available that the current flagship video card can't handle. Two of these Titan XP's in SLI will destroy 4K all day long! biggrin.gif
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