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Originally Posted by inedenimadam View Post

Dang, 29% over sli 980s, it might be time to pass these cards on to the kids.

Edit to add: the value compared to other current gen cards doesn't add up, but it des when you look at what i paid for my 980s 2 years ago. Its amazing how fast technology moves sometimes. I wish that CPUs were seeing these types of gains too, but itel is either almost tapped out or knows they can dish it out slow like without any competion. Please AMD, answer back with a beast card and some competitive CPUs soon.

stock vs stock maybe. I had and came from SLI 980's and stock titan was maybe 5-10% faster (stock titan boost is around 1850MHz) than my overclocked 980s were. Now, overclocked to overclocked, ya it is about 30-40% depending on the situation. The new titan gains huge amounts for small overclocks. It is quite impressive. Seems to have excessive memory bandwidth though. A 1GHz memory overclock (10->11) only gave me 100 extra points in FS Ultra. Whereas I gained about 100 points per 50MHz core clock. Everyone seems to be averaging +200 on the core stable, which results in 2050MHz when you are not power target throttling.
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http://www.overclock.net/t/1606818/wccf-nvidias-volta-could-launch-as-early-as-2h-2017-on-16nm-node/200#post_25396020

5% over reference 1070 with async on, you call that a stomping ? what is 1070 doing to Fury X as far as overall performance then ? "Mandhandling" doesn't do it justice.

I wish AMD fanboys wouldn't pollute the thread with this nonsense. Async is barely making amd lineup keep up with maxwell cards, that is before they're overclocked.

Same terminology used by the NV side when something wins by 5-10%, not to mention that the Fury X is a generation older. Then the Titan XP is called a "monster" with a 25-30% lead... Double standards much?
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Lucent made modems, not GPU's.

Go troll some other forum.

I think they were thinking of Bit Boyz or whatever that group was called. They released something like 4 true vaporware cards, not a single one made it to market.
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Probably in reviews, but not in the hands of an aficionado. A 1080 can only dream... I still haven't seen a 1080 that's better than my previous 970's, and the OG titan is faster when OC'ed, so....

If that is your stance, no point in further argument then rolleyes.gif
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Like I said, it really was not a diss at all. Every purchase I have made for my rig was absolutely epeen related (that's just the way I used to roll) and I have no problem with somebody buying two of these cards to play on 720p if that's what they want to do! Hell, buy a third to hang on the wall if you want to, knock yourselves out! That said, the practical application for this kind of money has to be at minimum 4K at 60Hz and even then a 1080 is close enough for half the cost. But damn, this thing is incredible like we knew it would be. No HBM2 is the only criticism I can make against it (beside the obvious price issue). I have no problem admitting that I'm super jealous of you guys (especially those doing it right and getting TWO of them)!!! wink.gif

In fact 3440x1440p at a constant 100fps is about the same as 4K at a constant 60fps in taxation.
 
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Anyone who wastes $1200 on one of these cards is actively contributing to this awful pricing situation and ought to be dissatisfied with themselves.

NVIDIA tested the waters by launching the Titan at $1000 and these people actually bought more than they could have anticipated. They got screwed when the 780 came out a couple months later and got screwed again when NVIDIA dropped the ball on drivers and made it so that their Titan is now no faster than the 7970 that they replaced with it. Now $1200 for a single GPU that isn't even 500mm^2 in size. Wow.
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No one bats an eye when folks buy 2x 1080s (which cost more overall) but they flip out over those who buy the $1200 TITAN X.
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No one bats an eye when folks buy 2x 1080s (which cost more overall) but they flip out over those who buy the $1200 TITAN X.
Even worse, those who spent $1400+ for 2 980 Classifieds, like me... redface.gif Dudes don't seem to understand. to push 4k, or, similar, you will have to pay more than those pushing 1080p or 1440p....hopefully, the next Year or so, this will become much cheaper to achieve...
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No one bats an eye when folks buy 2x 1080s (which cost more overall) but they flip out over those who buy the $1200 TITAN X.

Yes, two cards that are somewhat fairly priced cost more together than one card that is massively overpriced... what kind of argument are you even trying to make here? Do you like paying $1200 for a graphics card? If nobody had bought any of these ridiculous cards in the first place GP102 might have debuted as the $700 GTX 1080, or at the very worst at the same $1k price point as the original Titans.

The problem isn't the money, the problem is what you're getting for the money.
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HBM2 greatly reduce power consumption, helps the card stay cooler, indirectly helps overclocking, allows for more shaders/CUDA cores to be fully utilized, reduce the size of the card, increase thermal transmission, and reduce latency.

Nvidia themselves said in their Pascal presentation "Efficiency IS performance" HBM2 can increase efficiency by up to 40% (assuming it is more efficient than HBM1 which could reduce power draw by 30%) so you are factually wrong, corrected by Nvidia and this without taking all the other benefits I mentioned above into consideration nor the fact that games like the new Mirror's edge could see a 25% jump in performance by just increasing memory speed on many cards, or Fallout 4 loving high bandwitch cards and a considerable amount of games that tend to favor Memory Bandwitch almost as much as core clock, especially in beefy cards.
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Low level APIs like DX12/Vulkan working on games that make use of 6GB of VRAM or more will just increase the importance of high bandwitch memory, if anything people should be extremely excited for HBM2 as this changes the way every GPU works for the better, DIRECTLY and indirectly increasing performance, overclocking, thermals, latency, power consumption, efficiency and allowing for incredible 5 inches flagships, a revolution for the SFX/Packed mini ITX market.

Besides 40% of extra efficiency gained (From a hypothetical GDDR5 350W TDP card down to 250W TDP by just using HBM2) means bigger DIEs before new node shrinks, HBM could make possible the use of interposers to connect several DIEs into one package (think of NAVI Scalability/Multi core CPUs), architectures designed for higher clock speeds with more power dedicated to the core and less to the memory controller/Memory Stacks.

Increasing performance into the same thermal package is huge, enthusiast cards tend to max out at 300W, with HBM2 a 300W Volta would be hypothetically as powerful as a 400W TDP Volta without HBM2, allowing for up to 40% faster enthusiast GPUs for the high end market that tops out @ 300W TDP for single cards.

One thing is certain, HBM2 excites me more than the Titan XP.

Incorrect. HBM2 will barely be any better than GDDR5X power/heat wise.
Better in bandwidth? Sure, but it could might as well be overkill for GP102 and not needed. Just adds unecessary cost to the products.
Titan X already have same bandwidth as Fury X with HBM1

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Incorrect. HBM2 will barely be any better than GDDR5X power/heat wise.
Better in bandwidth? Sure, but it could might as well be overkill for GP102 and not needed. Just adds unecessary cost to the products.
Titan X already have same bandwidth as Fury X with HBM1

Your own image has 1TB/s HBM2 using less power than GDDR5 at what looks to be something like a quarter of that bandwidth. I agree that it probably wouldn't benefit GP102 much if at all, but barely any better than GDDR5X? Really?
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HD-READY 24" 1366X768 PENTILE TN PANEL GAMING M... ALIENWARE TACTX UBER 1337 BACKLIT RUBBER MEMBRA... OFF-BRAND 200W GAMING PSU; 65% EFFICIENCY  ALIENWARE GAMING CASE WITH THE COOL GLOWING ALIEN 
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ALIENWARE TACTX GAMING MOUSE ALIENWARE MOUSEPAD IT'S DESIGNED FOR GAMING AND... BEATS AUDIO 1337 ALIENWARE TACTX 8-CHANNEL GAMING HEADSET/M... 
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16 CORES!!!! 4GB VRAM!!!! FASTER THAN 3960X + 7... ALIENWARE GAMING CARPET 
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AMD FX-8320 @ 4.73GHz Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 Radeon HD 7950 @ 1200/1800 8GB Samsung 30nm DDR3 @ 2000MHz 11-11-11-28-1T 
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128GB Crucial M4 1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 2TB Seagate Barracuda ST 7200 RPM who cares 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
XSPC Raystorm XSPC Razor HD 7970 XSPC EX240 Swiftech MCP50X 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Black Ice GT Stealth 240 2x XSPC Xinruilian 1650rpm 2x Yate Loon Slim 1800rpm Alphacool Light Tower 
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Windows 7 Gentoo GNU/Linux Dell UltraSharp U2412M CM Storm Trigger MX Brown 
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Corsair AX750 Corsair Carbide 300R Logitech G400 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD OPTERON BULLDOZER 16-CORE 2GHZ (32GHZ TOTAL) ALIENWARE 3+1 PHASE ITX GAMING BOARD 4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GT 430 32GB GAMING DDR3 800MHZ CL13 
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2TB 5400RPM GAMING HDD GAMING BLU RAY BURNER ONE GAMING CASE FAN UBUNTU W/ UNITY (I AM 1337 H4X0R) 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
HD-READY 24" 1366X768 PENTILE TN PANEL GAMING M... ALIENWARE TACTX UBER 1337 BACKLIT RUBBER MEMBRA... OFF-BRAND 200W GAMING PSU; 65% EFFICIENCY  ALIENWARE GAMING CASE WITH THE COOL GLOWING ALIEN 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
ALIENWARE TACTX GAMING MOUSE ALIENWARE MOUSEPAD IT'S DESIGNED FOR GAMING AND... BEATS AUDIO 1337 ALIENWARE TACTX 8-CHANNEL GAMING HEADSET/M... 
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16 CORES!!!! 4GB VRAM!!!! FASTER THAN 3960X + 7... ALIENWARE GAMING CARPET 
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