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Yea, the same was said of the OG Titan, and I bought the OG Titan, with exactly the same thought process.

And look what happened, overpriced cards, sure its 30-40% faster, but for $1200? Even the GTX 1080 is overpriced, yet is better price/perf compared to that, or hell, the GTX 1070 to begin with.

And eventually, the performance of OG Titans, as will this new Titan X, will be had in the later Ti variants for hundreds of dollars cheaper, the Titans were never worth it, and I regret even getting the OG Titan.

We used to get mid-range die size cards for $250 like the 8800 GT or the GTX 560 Ti, now, the very same mid-range die size analogue in the GTX 1080 now retails for $700.


Nvidia knows that idiots, like me once, will overpay for middling 30-40% improvement, and they get away with it because nobody looks at the whole picture.

We are getting a crap deal compared to previous generations, the Fermi generation was the good days, not this.

The GTX 980 Ti was the only card recently that was priced right and fairly, only because AMD had their Fury X to counter it. You bet your ass that 980 Ti could have been $850 or more if AMD didn't have any answer.

Are we going to keep justifying $1200 for this Titan X, nevermind the fact that this Titan X Pascal is not even the full chip, it's only 3584 cores compared to the full-fat 3840 cores possible.

Then what, Volta Titans for $1500? $2000? At what point does it end? At what point can you claim it is "worth" it, knowing that this performance can be had for a far more reasonable price like 3-4 months later, like it was for OG Titan to GTX 780 Ti, and again with Titan X Maxwell to GTX 980 Ti.


In the dark future, the $2500 Titan Volta, comes out, and finally it makes no sense anymore. If GPU's are this expensive, VR won't advance its userbase any bigger because we need those better GPUs to push VR even higher, but it's not happening with the ridiculous prices of Nvidia. in this we need AMD to bring out their Vega and bigger cards, so one GPU is not having a monopoly at the high-end, and leaving the rest of us scraps.

Rep'd

Tired of hearing "the price went up but so did the performance so it's justified". Mid sized die 560 Ti was $250. Next they give us a $500 mid sized die (680) and reuse it for the next generation (770). Then it goes up a bit to $550 (980) and now $600-700 (1080). It's pretty disappointing that Nvidia's pricing is solely on performance. It's like, whatever sized die they can get to squeeze out roughly 30% more over the previous card will be sold as the same card but for the newer generation. If they could make a small sized die (like 200 mm2) that was 30% over the 1080, guaranteed that it would be sold as the 1180 and come in at $600-700 minimum.
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Woundingchaney hit the nail on the head. Like Ive said before, these are incredibly powerful cards that have been improved greatly from the last gen (in a short period of time), yet people cry that its "too expensive" and that Nvidia is just being greedy. I don't think most people realize how much processing power lies within these cards and that its still a completely new architecture. Sure the 980ti had a good entry price but it was also based off an architecture that had been around a long time that saw marginal improvements throughout a couple gens.

Everyone just sees a $1K+ price tag and loses their mind. Then they compare it to AMD cards which have been consistently behind for a while now
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Nobody remembers the price of a Titan Z? biggrin.gif Maybe they wanted to test how manu consumers would be crazy enough to grab those. I tried one...but second-hand at a fraction of the price..
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Originally Posted by st0necold View Post

dude your full of it. if you ran the TX side by side the 1080 you couldn't pick which was which.

I'm glad you have one it's the best out but don't say the "experience" is any different then a 1080.

LOL

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I really can't blame Nvidia. Their goal is to maximize share holder profit/value for their investment. They are good at doing that. There is clearly a market for the Titan X at 1200 (gonna order one myself). I would have done the same if I was running a similar company. And there is no competition from AMD.
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This trend will get steeper as each perf per dollar no longer deflate, in fact who knows it might inflate if AMD continue get kicked on its ass.

The graph though doesn't tell the whole story.
Performance wise, prices /performance ratio increases every step.

The 1070 performs better or as well as the 980 TI for 250$ less? The 980 was performing similar to the 780 TI at150$ less?

So you are paying more, but you are also getting a lot more. And to get the same as before, you need to pay less.
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Nobody remembers the price of a Titan Z? biggrin.gif Maybe they wanted to test how manu consumers would be crazy enough to grab those. I tried one...but second-hand at a fraction of the price..

The titan z was limited in terms production amount, so making that card wasn't cheap for them as well. They also said "this is the card, not for normal people, take it or leave it" and moved on. They weren't trying to push it on people with price drops 3 months after like the 295x2.
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LOL


Quite curious, what's so mind blowingly different, just asking, no foul intent, would appreciate a response. Personal experience and examples are preferred.
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Quite curious, what's so mind blowingly different, just asking, no foul intent, would appreciate a response. Personal experience and examples are preferred.


Its the simple notion of a 30-40% performance increase. This is a substantial difference for comparison. Granted in still images both will supply the same visuals, but such a high performance increase should very much be apparent in gameplay by nearly every standard we have (Image quality, framerate, effects, etc).
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Quite curious, what's so mind blowingly different, just asking, no foul intent, would appreciate a response. Personal experience and examples are preferred.
The fact that you get 10-15 more fps in games can make a very different gaming experience, especially at 4k when the fps difference goes from being under 60 to at and above 60.
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