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[TP] SoC Powering Xbox One S Leverages 16 nm FinFET from TSMC

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 The new SoC isn't merely an optical shrink of the original 28 nm chip down to 16 nm FinFET, Microsoft added a few components to the chip, including an HEVC hardware decoder, hardware CODECs for Blu-ray UHD with HDR; and a revamped display controller with HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2. The chip also performs 1080p to 4K UHD upscaling, with a native upscaling algorithm. The eSRAM memory bandwidth is increased slightly from 204 GB/s from 219 GB/s

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post #2 of 36
Could only be for Xbox, but they definitely need to be rid of GloFo lol. Maybe by the time Navi comes out.
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Why do they continue to use them? Does GloFo have some special deals on fabs?
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Why do they continue to use them? Does GloFo have some special deals on fabs?
They have some kind of WSA deal with glofo.
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This makes it quite possible for AMD to make GPU's on TSMC's 16nm FF+ because they already have made one for the Xbox One S SOC so they already have the GPU libraries and building blocks made they just have to use them. So Vega could very well be made by TSMC allowing higher clock speeds at the cost of a slightly higher die size.
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Yeah AMD probably going to use TSMC for bigger Vega. I hope it does better in terms of power and overclocking.
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Yeah AMD probably going to use TSMC for bigger Vega. I hope it does better in terms of power and overclocking.

They could always launch a stopgap Polaris chip clocked at 1700 MHz if TSMC fab does result in higher frequencies.
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They could always launch a stopgap Polaris chip clocked at 1700 MHz if TSMC fab does result in higher frequencies.

GCN will not hit those clocks. The hope is 1400MHz+
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They could always launch a stopgap Polaris chip clocked at 1700 MHz if TSMC fab does result in higher frequencies.

I have a strong feeling that it's much easier said than done to just port one architecture design from one fab to another. I don't know if it's possible to do that and have it come out before Vega and not be a total disaster.
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Ever since GloFo spun off from AMD, they've been crap; for their CPUs and GPUs. AMD should be sticking to TSMC and Samsung. If Vega is slated to be made in GloFo, I can honestly say that this generation for AMD will be lackluster until Navi and hopefully AMD learns.
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