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This makes me wonder what corporate leadership at WD is smoking. Is there even a place in the long term market for spinning platter drives? They'll be getting trounced by Samsung in the consumer market the next 3-5 years and I don't even see them trying to compete with solid state.
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This makes me wonder what corporate leadership at WD is smoking. Is there even a place in the long term market for spinning platter drives? They'll be getting trounced by Samsung in the consumer market the next 3-5 years and I don't even see them trying to compete with solid state.

Perhaps it's better to think of "Western Digital" HDDs as just a brand? They own SanDisk and that could then be thought of as their solid-state brand.
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This makes me wonder what corporate leadership at WD is smoking. Is there even a place in the long term market for spinning platter drives? They'll be getting trounced by Samsung in the consumer market the next 3-5 years and I don't even see them trying to compete with solid state.

Yeah, SSD consumer market up to 1TB can be had for fairly cheap when all things considered. But where WDC, Seagate, and Toshiba are holding onto is the Enterprise market for the long term. Especially with new recording methods coming out to make more efficient, faster, bigger drives. Then again, I wonder at what Storage size does the HDD become cumbersome in speed. Imagine HDDs do get to 20TB per disk with new recording methods, but speeds but would still be "to die for". Imagine having it only go about 200MB/s when an SDD of let's say 4TB can do 1,500MB/s easily.
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You have just been lucky. I agree about having the most reliable drives with the longest warranties possible but even those can fail without warning at anytime.


Used to think as long as I can back up before the HDD fails I would be fine. I did not care back in 500GB days if HDD had warranty if my data was safe because internet speeds where slow to download stuff back. Now it's the opposite. I might lose 3TB of Video and Game Backups but not willing to buy the HDD again. I have the famous Seagate 3TB drivers. The ones I got in 2012 both show relocated sectors. I backed the important stuff and still using them. Just keep using the new drivers I buy which are under warranty and "retire" them in my server.


You may not have any irreplaceable data on your computer but I, and many others, do. The only way to ensure they won't be gone and lost forever if a drive fails is to back up the drive.
RAID 5 and 6 exist for this very reason. For home use I think RAID 5 is more than enough as you have one drive redundancy. RAID 6 allows for two drive redundancies but it's costlier and for people who only store photos, films and music on their drives unnecessary.

Sigh! I cringe every time I see a post like this. Your comment is inaccurate on so many levels... First, RAID of any kind is NOT a backup. Drive failure is not the only way someone can lose data. Don't take my word for it, though. Click on the top link in my signature for an article by OCN's resident drive and backup guru, Sean Webster, who works with drives and backups for a living.

Your last sentence is especially disturbing. Pray tell how will people replace lost photos they have taken themselves? It's not like they can just go to the internet and redownload them. Many films people have on their computers are ones they have ripped from DVDs or recorded from tapes that are no longer available or not available as downloads. Same for a lot of music. Even if the music is available for download, it is usually lower in quality than when ripped from a CD. Once lost, they are all lost forever unless backed up.
     
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Sigh! I cringe every time I see a post like this. Your comment is inaccurate on so many levels... First, RAID of any kind is NOT a backup. Drive failure is not the only way someone can lose data. Don't take my word for it, though. Click on the top link in my signature for an article by OCN's resident drive and backup guru, Sean Webster, who works with drives and backups for a living.

Your last sentence is especially disturbing. Pray tell how will people replace lost photos they have taken themselves? It's not like they can just go to the internet and redownload them. Many films people have on their computers are ones they have ripped from DVDs or recorded from tapes that are no longer available or not available as downloads. Same for a lot of music. Even if the music is available for download, it is usually lower in quality than when ripped from a CD. Once lost, they are all lost forever unless backed up.

Not only that, imagine having to rebuild with RAID 5 when you have 6TB drives, *shudder*.
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Sigh! I cringe every time I see a post like this. Your comment is inaccurate on so many levels... First, RAID of any kind is NOT a backup. Drive failure is not the only way someone can lose data. Don't take my word for it, though. Click on the top link in my signature for an article by OCN's resident drive and backup guru, Sean Webster, who works with drives and backups for a living.

Your last sentence is especially disturbing. Pray tell how will people replace lost photos they have taken themselves? It's not like they can just go to the internet and redownload them. Many films people have on their computers are ones they have ripped from DVDs or recorded from tapes that are no longer available or not available as downloads. Same for a lot of music. Even if the music is available for download, it is usually lower in quality than when ripped from a CD. Once lost, they are all lost forever unless backed up.

Yeah RAID really is not a solution. Good thing I do not have to back up Photos/Videos anymore. Good Photos backs them up right away.
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With so many things in the cloud or streamed now days, normal users really don't need as much storage as they used to.

256/500GB main OS drives will suite 99% of people. Then a 1TB low end cheap SSD for game storage is perfect for people with large game collections.

my current set up is
256gb OS drive
1tb wd black drive for some games and some backup
1tb ssd for most of my games

then a 4tb hdd in my server for movies, music, video, and picture storage/backup. Anything thats really important is stored in the cloud. My most important stuff which is all my school work over the past couple years is saved on 2 desktops, 2 laptops, and in the cloud. I could care less about everything else i have.
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With so many things in the cloud or streamed now days, normal users really don't need as much storage as they used to.

256/500GB main OS drives will suite 99% of people. Then a 1TB low end cheap SSD for game storage is perfect for people with large game collections.

my current set up is
256gb OS drive
1tb wd black drive for some games and some backup
1tb ssd for most of my games

then a 4tb hdd in my server for movies, music, video, and picture storage/backup. Anything thats really important is stored in the cloud. My most important stuff which is all my school work over the past couple years is saved on 2 desktops, 2 laptops, and in the cloud. I could care less about everything else i have.

1TB OS/Gaming.

3 x 3TB storage.

I used 256GB was not enough for OS/Gaming. 512GB was enough but not for the nexr 2-3 years so now I use 1TB. Got it for 165 USD.
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I think the helium works in the same way nitrogen works in paintball air tanks and tires. It creates a more stable atmosphere thus creating marginally higher performance. I'd like to see real world bench applications.
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I Keep it "old school". I use tape for backup. Not really a big fan of not being in control of my data and getting it immediately when I want. Then again, tape backup isnt cheap to start up. Free "old" tapes from work and an old tape reader. works well for me.
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