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What's up err'one.

Last few days have been a nightmare to me. Those idiots have been cutting the power in my neighborhood almost everyday.

Yesterday I had a few power surges or I don't know how it's called. Generally, all the lights in my home start to dim, flashing quickly and my PC end up restarting. Does not switch off, just restart.

I've read some information about it and people say there's a chance I can face a HDD failure. I have a few drives in RAID-1 array, but I'm still scared.

So, I think I will play safe and go with a UPS.

My PC PSU is 780W, and I want to connect my server to the UPS, just in case. The server has 500W power supply. So, that makes it two computers.

Can you recommend me something from this website, because that's the place I buy from.

You should consider that my budget is pretty low right now.

They have two categories of UPS devices. One says Uncontrolled UPS, second says Controlled UPS. I don't know what that is (being a total noob here).

http://www.emag.bg/neupravljaemi-ups-i/c?ref=cat_tree_255

http://www.emag.bg/upravljaemi-ups-i/c?ref=cat_tree_254

Price is in our local currency but you can easily convert that to USD by multiplying the number by 0.57 and you'll get the price in dollar bills.

My limit is something around $140 USD.

I'll be glad if someone can check that out, because really, I don't know anything about Uninterruptible power supplies.

Thanks a lot. And Cheers. smile.gif
     
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post #2 of 8
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Originally Posted by eurotrade07 View Post

What's up err'one.

Last few days have been a nightmare to me. Those idiots have been cutting the power in my neighborhood almost everyday.

Yesterday I had a few power surges or I don't know how it's called. Generally, all the lights in my home start to dim, flashing quickly and my PC end up restarting. Does not switch off, just restart.

I've read some information about it and people say there's a chance I can face a HDD failure. I have a few drives in RAID-1 array, but I'm still scared.

So, I think I will play safe and go with a UPS.

My PC PSU is 780W, and I want to connect my server to the UPS, just in case. The server has 500W power supply. So, that makes it two computers.

Can you recommend me something from this website, because that's the place I buy from.

You should consider that my budget is pretty low right now.

They have two categories of UPS devices. One says Uncontrolled UPS, second says Controlled UPS. I don't know what that is (being a total noob here).

http://www.emag.bg/neupravljaemi-ups-i/c?ref=cat_tree_255

http://www.emag.bg/upravljaemi-ups-i/c?ref=cat_tree_254

Price is in our local currency but you can easily convert that to USD by multiplying the number by 0.57 and you'll get the price in dollar bills.

My limit is something around $140 USD.

I'll be glad if someone can check that out, because really, I don't know anything about Uninterruptible power supplies.

Thanks a lot. And Cheers. smile.gif

I havent quite understood ya. You are saying, you dont have outages, but you do have surges? And you dont need the computer/server to stay online for long, but just for a couple of minutes, till the surge passes, right?
post #3 of 8
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OK, I will just copy paste what I read and hope you understand me.

Quote:
The real danger of blackouts and brownouts is the unexpected computer shutdown. Operating systems are complex and they must go through a “shutdown sequence” to make sure all running processes have correctly terminated before powering off. A sudden loss of electricity can interrupt important threads and leave your computer in an inoperable state.

System files are the largest concern. Consider what happens when a hard drive is writing data to the disk but suddenly shuts down in the middle of it.

Furthermore, frequent power outages can reduce a hard drive’s physical lifespan. The read-and-write head, which hovers over the spinning platters during operation, snaps back into its original position upon power loss. This sudden movement can cause tiny imperfections that accumulate over time, increasing the likelihood of a “head crash”: a malfunction that occurs when the head touches and scrapes the platter surfaces, effectively destroying the hard drive.

Solid-state drives can also suffer catastrophic damage from sudden power cuts. Issues can range anywhere from data corruption to total malfunction.

Edited by eurotrade07 - 8/5/16 at 12:46am
     
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post #4 of 8
Well, that stuff I do know. I was more intereыеув in how long you want your equipent to be able to run on backup power. One thing is to be running of an UPS for a time, other thing is for it to be there for 5-10 minutes until the surge passes. I owuld buy something with 2000VA and it should be totally sufficient for your PC and server. What your shop means with controlled/non controlled UPS is unclear for me.
post #5 of 8
Is the APC BR900G-GR available where you live? Would be a good option and ~in your price range.
If this model is not available, try to aim for an UPS from APC that is either VI or VFI (though VFI is out of your price range). Autonomy time of ~3 minutes should be enough and in your price range.
Should have ~500W AC power.
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Is 500W power enough for my PC and server?

Also, I just need a few minutes to shut down my systems safely.

PS. Yeah, I found the APC BR900G-GR.

Costs 256 USD.
Edited by eurotrade07 - 8/5/16 at 1:18am
     
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Hm, if you live in Bulgaria, can you not just order from Germany? It's 161€ here:
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/APC-Back-UPS-Pro-900-900-VA-540-Watt-Tower--BR900G-GR-_783030.html
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Of course I can but for that weight, they'd probably charge me more than 50 EUR I reckon. *sadface*
     
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