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post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
Hi,

I appeal to your knowledge to help me about the dimensioning of my loop.

I want to watercool an I7 6700k and 1 R9 390X TriX. All that stuff will be in a Tt Core V21.

The elements of my loop will be :
- WB CPU : Alphacool nexXxos XP3
- WB GPU : Alphacool GPX 390 M01
- Pump : D5 vario (mostly on position 3)
- 3 HL Nemesis GTS 240 with eloop B12-1 (or PWM)
- The rest isn't impacting

Are the elements consistent with each other?

Thanks !
post #2 of 16
That's anew one - WCing being "consistent".

What is it that you actually want to know?
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post #3 of 16
Thread Starter 
Thanks google trad for that wink.gif
As you can see, I'm french , once this is said, everything is said biggrin.gif

I want to know if the whole loop is coherent, if there is an element weaker than other that reduce global efficiency.
post #4 of 16
You have an excellent pump and rads. The blocks.....not so good. You should consider changing out the CPU block to something better - a Heatkiller, EK EVO, Raystorm Pro. Very little difference in cost, but you will have better performance and less restriction in most cases. The GPU block is not ideal, but you could get by with it. However, if you are going that far, you may as well not skimp on the GPU block just to save a small amount.
post #5 of 16
Thread Starter 
I Know that GPU is not as ideal as a full cover but for the 390x Tri-X there is no full cover in the market, and the alphacool GPX is the best hybrid cooling solution I found, so this is not to save money.
post #6 of 16
I don't think your going to fit 3 rads in that case and you don't need that many anyway, 2 rads will do fine. Not sure your going to fit a D5 in there either, you should probably look at a DDC or SP60, and where are you going to put the res? I would go with an EK MX CPU block over that alphacool if you don't want to spend the money on the blocks that ciarlatano mentioned.
 
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post #7 of 16
Thread Starter 
that 3 Rads can fit in that case : when mobo is mount horizontal, I cant fit two on top or one on each side (can go 280 as well) plus one on front.
On front, there is 85mm left between mobo tray and front rad (with 30mm rad : 115mm total)
post #8 of 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by KaptainK View Post

that 3 Rads can fit in that case : when mobo is mount horizontal, I cant fit two on top or one on each side (can go 280 as well) plus one on front.
On front, there is 85mm left between mobo tray and front rad (with 30mm rad : 115mm total)

Your forgetting all the tubing, fittings, and reservoir that need to go in there too, and like I said you don't need that many rads, it will just clutter the case and suffocate it to death. Your starting the journey into water cooling the wrong way my friend. Aim small to start.
 
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post #9 of 16
Thread Starter 
Sure, I probably do things wrong, this is my first loop. My knowledge only comes from reading threads here and there.
I'm here to gather advice thumb.gif

I have three postulates for the choices I made :
- 390x can run hot
- I want silence and so fans that rotate slowly (under 1000rpm)
- I want to have the possibility of overclocking a,d some times benching

With that, I was thinking that only 4x120 (or 2x240) was not enough to go cold and quiet in normal usage (max load will be games at 2560x1080).

Maybe I should go with Core X2 instead of Core V21 (I can return it). And so have some more room to work in and go with 45mm thick rads.

What would you do ?
post #10 of 16
If you do a Core X2 with a pair of Nemesis 360GTS, you wold be closer to your want list. The GTS is actually a slightly better performer than the GTX in low noise applications, and will give you some breathing room in the case. Make sure you appropriate fans that aren't noise prone (GTs, Vardars, eLoops, Phanteks F120MP, Corsair ML120 - though there seems to be issues sprouting up with the ML120 in that thread).

Also, the EK MX that @Radnad mentioned is a nice economical choice, as is the XSPC Raystorm Pro. Personally, I really prefer the Raystorm Pro between those two, performance of the Raystorm is a touch better in most tests (really too small to matter), but the mounting kit is far easier to work with. That Alphacool CPU block you are looking at is really not a good choice. As I stated earlier, the GPU block is not ideal, but is certainly ok.

Using a D5/res combo would also simplify your life a bit - like the XSPC Photon D5 or EK X-Res Revo D5. The Photons are glass and are pretty incredible looking in person. Photos don't show it, buy side by side with acrylic reservoirs the difference is very noticeable.

Last thing, if it is your first loop, as advised, keep it small and simple. Soft tubing is far, far easier to use for a first build and will acquaint you with the concept and the procedures. 3/8" x 5/8" is the most popular tubing for a couple of reasons - it is substantial enough to provide proper flow and look right in the case, and the tubing wall is thick enough to make tighter bends without kinking. Most use Primochill Advanced LRT, and it is hard to dispute that it is one of the best.

Finally, draw out your loop before you purchase parts. Make sure you order enough fittings and proper angles where necessary.
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