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Hi,

I am putting togheter a gaming rig for my nephew.
He already got one, put a friend had a old one I can give him with better graphic card and a SSD.

But I am a bit unsure if I should just replace his GPU and install the SSD or give him the entire system.

The G2120 @3,1 Hhz is dual core with greater singel core performance, but the AMD 3,1 Ghz will outperform on applications that can use all cores.

Googled a bit, but I am not sure how multicore usage is on games like Mindcraft, Rocket league etc.
I dont play these type of games:)
Any thoughts?
post #2 of 18
G2120 should be a decent amount faster, it will also give a bit better of upgrade path should they decide to go with an i5 or i7.
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Originally Posted by appleg33k85 View Post

G2120 should be a decent amount faster, it will also give a bit better of upgrade path should they decide to go with an i5 or i7.

Is that clean cut? I tried and do some research on it, but thought the 840 would outperform the G2120 if the application could utilise 3 cores or more?

It is paired with a GTX 760
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The Phenoms were poor quad cores, you'll do much better with a stronger dual core which will again give the option to upgrade to an even stronger i3 or i5 later on.
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They were fine a few years ago, they're like 7 or 8 years old at this point though.
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Try playing GTA V on that dual core and you will find out why you shouldn't listen to people recommending dual cores. You absolutely need more than two cores for games now, the time of the dual core passed long ago and if your nephew intends to do more than just browsing on this PC a dual core is a very bad idea (I wouldn't even use a dual core for browsing).

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Try playing GTA V on that dual core and you will find out why you shouldn't listen to people recommending dual cores. You absolutely need more than two cores for games now, the time of the dual core passed long ago and if your nephew intends to do more than just browsing on this PC a dual core is a very bad idea (I wouldn't even use a dual core for browsing).
This.

Use the Phenom II 840 and overclock it as much as you can. On older titles that use just two cores, the Phenom II will be good enough even if it doesn't have the same single-core grunt as the Pentium. Some newer games won't even run on a dual-core, and even if they do, they don't like it.
     
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Try playing GTA V on that dual core and you will find out why you shouldn't listen to people recommending dual cores. You absolutely need more than two cores for games now, the time of the dual core passed long ago and if your nephew intends to do more than just browsing on this PC a dual core is a very bad idea (I wouldn't even use a dual core for browsing).
This.

Use the Phenom II 840 and overclock it as much as you can. On older titles that use just two cores, the Phenom II will be good enough even if it doesn't have the same single-core grunt as the Pentium. Some newer games won't even run on a dual-core, and even if they do, they don't like it.

To clarify this even more a dual core Pentium will run GTA V at around 15-20fps, which is what my 15W laptop APU + discreet GPU gets (I will admit I am CPU limited as the GPU is only at 50% use but then I didn't buy the laptop to play games on it so I couldn't care less).

 

Dual cores cannot clock high enough to match two extra cores, which is why i3's crush dual cores in modern games and let's not even talk about i5's, FX6xxx's or higher core count CPU's.

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post #10 of 18
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Well, tried the system today and I believe I have a CPU bottleneck for sure, was kinda expexting that though:)
Tried SC2 and World of tanks and never saw the GPU (GTX760) usage go above 60%.


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