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Originally Posted by Klocek001 View Post

I have a sensor in my H1 and a digital display. my intake air is just around my room temp.
I am aware you've got a thread called ways of better cooling, I've seen you mention it in just about each one of your posts.
You may be one of the few extremely lucky people who do have 'intake air is just around my room temp', but that is extremely rare.While it is possible, it is rarely to be 'just around room temp'. Sorry, but after building as many systems as i have and checking component intake air temps as many times as I have to be sure system is reasonably optimized I know how extremely rare it is for component intake air temps ot be less than 5c above room ambient even at idle .. and they usually go up dramatically when GPU works hard, like when gaming.

No idea why you mention that I suggest a guide to something from 'Ways to Better Cooling' thread, but the reason I have that thread and reference it often is to help people learn what they don't know. Sorry, if you know so much it's of no help please put me on your ignore list and you won't have to read anything I post. biggrin.gif

If going $50.00 I would suggest
True Spirit 140 Rev. A $49.90
https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-140-BW-Rev-TY-147A/dp/B012JVGKCY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1470662223&sr=8-1&keywords=true+spirit+140+rev.+a
It performs better than NH-D14, which performs as good as NH-D15 with same fans. wink.gif
It really is one of the best coolers out there, and probably the best in it's price range.

Cryorig H5 $46.99
https://www.amazon.com/Cryorig-Ultimate-CR-H5B-Middle-Heatsink/dp/B0154AXB4C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1470662174&sr=8-1&keywords=cryorig+h5


PH-TC12DX is really not as good as they are and cost $49.99
https://www.amazon.com/Phanteks-U-Type-Heat-Sink-Cooler-PH-TC12DX/dp/B00AXUTKEY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1470661949&sr=8-1&keywords=ph-tc12dx
Edited by doyll - 8/8/16 at 6:18am
post #22 of 63
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

You may be one of the few extremely lucky people who do have 'intake air is just around my room temp', but that is extremely rare.While it is possible, it is rarely to be 'just around room temp'. Sorry, but after building as many systems as i have and checking component intake air temps as many times as I have to be sure system is reasonably optimized I know how extremely rare it is for component intake air temps ot be less than 5c above room ambient even at idle .. and they usually go up dramatically when GPU works hard, like when gaming.

No idea why you mention that I suggest a guide to something from 'Ways to Better Cooling' thread, but the reason I have that thread and reference it often is to help people learn what they don't know. Sorry, if you know so much it's of no help please put me on your ignore list and you won't have to read anything I post. biggrin.gif

I don't know so much of it, I just think opzimizing your airflow takes a lot of time and money while giving back little benefits in practice, and it's never a way of compensating for a bad cpu cooler. I had TR Macho and over 70 degrees in games. Instead of investigating intake temperatures I went on and bought Noctua D15S which lowered the temps below 60 even though the airflow in my case was very poor. With Noctua's superb installation I got it done in 15 minutes. Some of us value the easy and quick solutions more than complex and time consuming ones, even if they are not as perfect.
Edited by Klocek001 - 8/8/16 at 6:25am
post #23 of 63
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Originally Posted by Fuell View Post

I'd vote for Phanteks ph tc12dx, Cryorig H5 or Deepcool Lucifer v2 (or K2 if ram clearance and issue)
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I don't know so much of it, I just think opzimizing your airflow takes a lot of time and money while giving back little benefits in practice, and it's never a way of compensating for a bad cpu cooler.
Actually it doesn't take long to check component intake air temps and setup case airflow so they are not more than 5-8c above room ambient.

Think of it like having a nice classic car, but never getting it tuned to perform as it should. Sure, it will still get you around, but chances are a good tune-up will put a nice grin on your face and and cost you less at the gas pump too. biggrin.gif
post #24 of 63
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Actually it doesn't take long to check component intake air temps and setup case airflow so they are not more than 5-8c above room ambient.
yes but it takes time to solve it once it turn out the intake air is the problem.or you can slap a better heatsink on in 10 minutes and not care about intake air temperatures.
how is airflow in your pc case like a classical car ?


okay I'll visit the thread and rep you if you insist so much.
post #25 of 63
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Actually it doesn't take long to check component intake air temps and setup case airflow so they are not more than 5-8c above room ambient.

Think of it like having a nice classic car, but never getting it tuned to perform as it should. Sure, it will still get you around, but chances are a good tune-up will put a nice grin on your face and and cost you less at the gas pump too. biggrin.gif

Why am I quoted? confused.gif
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post #26 of 63
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yes but it takes time to solve it once it turn out the intake air is the problem.or you can slap a better heatsink on in 10 minutes and not care about intake air temperatures.
how is airflow in your pc case like a classical car ?


okay I'll visit the thread and rep you if you insist so much.
Strapping a bigger cooler on may not help at all. If case isn't flowing air like it should and you put a bigger cooler on, the cooler has to reuse the heated air inside of case even more than a smaller cooler .. making the case air temp even higher.

So if you had a nice car or motorcycle and it got you to and from, you would never have it tuned so it give optimum performance? By your logic, ignorance is bliss. If you don't know how bad it is you don't have to worry about it. biggrin.gif

So why overclock your CPU? It takes at least as much time and effort a doing a basic optimization of case airflow.

No, please don't visit my thread. And don't give me rep. I don't need it and I never ask for it.
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Why am I quoted? confused.gif
Sorry, I quoted you about cooler recommendations. The PH-TC12DX is really not all that good a $50 cooler. True Spirit and H7 are better.
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Having owned and tested both, I can tell you that the H5 is worth the extra $10. It offers better overall cooling, better performance/noise (in other words, it will be quieter while keeping the same temps) and has one of the best mounting kits on the market. It will also perform on par with your H55 with less noise. If I was reaching for a midrange cooler, I would grab my H5 over my NH-U12S - looks do play a part in that, though, but performance is very similar.
Builders who are concerned with the actual performance of their coolers and getting proper airflow to them measure things like this.....

Well I'm probably going to go with the h5 now mostly because the h7 went OOS right as I went to get it x3
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post #28 of 63
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I have a sensor in my H1 and a digital display. my intake air is just around my room temp.
I am aware you've got a thread called ways of better cooling, I've seen you mention it in just about each one of your posts.

So....you are asking who would measure something like that.....but you do it yourself.....sounds like you were simply being argumentitive.
post #29 of 63
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Well I'm probably going to go with the h5 now mostly because the h7 went OOS right as I went you get it x3
That's a bummer, but like ciarlatano said, the H5 is better, not better than True Spirit 140 rev.A, and looks are different. While the TS140rA has black top, it isn't as nice looking as H5.
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So....you are asking who would measure something like that.....but you do it yourself.....sounds like you were simply being argumentitive.
You think? At least he is using a little logical thought about it all. thumb.gif
post #30 of 63
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.It will also perform on par with your H55 with less noise. If I was reaching for a midrange cooler, I would grab my H5 over my NH-U12S - looks do play a part in that, though

My h55 is getting to be a bit old now, arounds 3-4yrs and it use to keep me sub 60c. These days it has a hard time even with my undervolt keeping me sub 70c :/ reading reviews the h7/h5 should actually out perform my h55s current state
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