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post #11 of 29
Just build a whole new PC. If he will never play a game and only watch movies, don't even get a GPU. Just get a new skylake CPU which has some damn good built in graphics already and can handle what he wants. As far as sound goes, no one get's sound cards anymore, every motherboard you can buy has good components already. If he wants to use a 5.1 set up he already has, I am guessing he has a stereo powering all of it. Just get a motherboard with an optical audio out, if his stereo doesn't have optical then one with a regular 3.5mm jack will work just find. Using a PC to handle the 5.1 distribution is a huge headache and more than likely a waste of time/money/effort because you can buy a stereo that will do a MUCH better job for just a tad bit more money.
post #12 of 29
Sorry there is no way around it. The computer is just too old. Currently you have DDR2 rams while the currently market is already selling DDR4 rams its just too old. The cheapest would be getting the AMD cpu the motherboard and the rams that I suggested in the previous post and a OS of your choice or if you want get a Skylake Pentium and a cheap motherboard and DDR4 rams
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post #13 of 29
Since no one wants to help you attempt to build something cheap. Here you go.

GIGABYTE GA-F2A68HM-H FM2+ $50
AMD A6-5400K Trinity Dual-Core 3.6 GHz Socket FM2 $30
Mushkin Enhanced 2GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 $13

Under $100 upgrade. This is a DEAD upgrade path, since the mother will be using it, long as she isn't doing anything crazy it'll work.

Onboard video & Audio will do you plenty. Might have to get another OS for it though, not sure.


Nice eBay combo $100
Edited by kaivorth - 8/8/16 at 3:55pm
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post #14 of 29
EVGA GeForce 210 DirectX 10.1 $30

ASUS Xonar DG 5.1 $31

Another effort to keep what you have going
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post #15 of 29
Is it possible to install Vista on his new computer? It can be cheaper.
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Originally Posted by kaivorth View Post

Since no one wants to help you attempt to build something cheap. Here you go.

GIGABYTE GA-F2A68HM-H FM2+ $50
AMD A6-5400K Trinity Dual-Core 3.6 GHz Socket FM2 $30
Mushkin Enhanced 2GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 $13

Under $100 upgrade. This is a DEAD upgrade path, since the mother will be using it, long as she isn't doing anything crazy it'll work.

Onboard video & Audio will do you plenty. Might have to get another OS for it though, not sure.

thanks for the reply.....will this actually work/fit in on the current pc ? how about power supply etc do i use from the old ?
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post #18 of 29
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Any video card you put in that machine will be severally bottle necked by the Pentium 4. In other words, you will still have the same performance issues you have now with a new card as the Pentium 4 is the main bottleneck of the system and anything you do to try and improve it will be wasted money.

After looking up the board, it is only capable of running Pentium 4's, no Pentium D or core2 type processors. So I'm pretty sure the CPU is pegged at 100% doing basic tasks like web browsing let alone playing HD video, especially since it's running Vista.

Save up the money for the upgrade as anything you spend on it now will get you no where. I would look into an AMD APU solution as that would be the best upgrade for his needs.


A format and reinstall of the OS would be the only thing worth trying to improve the performance of the machine, else you'll be wasting money.

Exactly what I was going to say! 100%

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XAslanX has pretty much the best answer...................

If you have a car with a tiny motor, putting bigger wheels on it won't make it go any faster!

But removing things from the car and/or getting smaller/lighter wheels CAN make the car "faster". Wish the same were true for computers wink.gif


OP - I just threw away a system just like this one. Too many computers for dirt cheap (less than $100) that will be much better suited (and faster) for what he's trying to do. If he's really wanting to keep the budget tight, I suggest trying to purchase a used MB, cpu, and SSD as well as installing a new OS. If you're interested, I might have something a little faster lying around. PM me. I was able to build a budget PC (Q6600 Core 2 quad) basically for free. Friends and family donated parts. I'm in process of overclocking it to 3.4Ghz or more right now.
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Dell Optiplex 755 as low as $44.95

This!^
The Dell 755 is where I got my Q6600 from. GREAT PC for the price! And even capable of running newer style graphics cards and gaming-level performance ( even though I know you aren't looking to game on it)
post #20 of 29
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thanks for the reply.....will this actually work/fit in on the current pc ? how about power supply etc do i use from the old ?

I believe you can do all of the above. Let me double check for you tonight.
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Dell Optiplex 755 as low as $44.95

You could go this route too, it's just going to be another dead end approach looking at those PC's.
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