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Denuvo has no performance impact. It isn't a DRM but an anti tamper to said DRM. What I'd like to know is can the developers claim they saw an uptick in sale of their games while the protection lasted.
The mere fact that Denuvo requires activation makes it DRM. For some, the fact that it actively PREVENTS one from reverse-engineering the executable makes it DRM. So definitely Digital RESTRICTIONS Management from where I see it.
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earn more money

No pay , no play.

600k people in 3 days shows piracy is still clearly a problem
Even if you managed to make it so hard to crack that eventually so many people would buy it - a purely fictional hypothesis, obviously - that would still be of little benefit for the publisher. That's way too far from the release date. You have shareholders to please.
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it was cracked lst year or January just not available to the public
some were paid to not to release, others that are popular(known) could be rested if they did and giving anonymously the profit would go to someone else.
i bet this is a new group and probably created by a few from 3DM
lol, CPY is a decades old scene group. 3DM is just a bunch of people who make cheap loaders (they're not even cracks) to enable people to play for free. Scene groups have a whole different mentality, they're interested (in regards to software) in cracking the protection, which is a tough challenge. They don't give a crap about making hacks for freeloaders.
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I regret paying $50 CAD on G2A, but the game was alright.
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Do I have a problem in paying 50 or 60€ for something like The Witcher 3 or Deus Ex: HR? No, because these are excellent games deserving of the money you give for it.
Do I have a problem in paying 50 or 60€ for something like the last Need for Speed? Yes, because the title is garbage.

That said, I basically never pirate games, even if a game is terrible but I want to try it either way (like the last Need for Speed) I just wait til I can get it in a sale for a few bucks. No big deal.
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Need for speed is worth it if you can find a decent setup for drifting.
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Denuvo has no performance impact. It isn't a DRM but an anti tamper to said DRM. What I'd like to know is can the developers claim they saw an uptick in sale of their games while the protection lasted.
The mere fact that Denuvo requires activation makes it DRM. For some, the fact that it actively PREVENTS one from reverse-engineering the executable makes it DRM. So definitely Digital RESTRICTIONS Management from where I see it.
Fair enough. Just pointing out that it did not have a performance impact that some were claiming it to make.
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Fair enough. Just pointing out that it did not have a performance impact that some were claiming it to make.

Well, to be honest, given how protections like Denuvo work, there IS by definition a performance hit. You only have so many CPU cycles, any additional instruction for the virtual machine is one less for the game. But that shouldn't be a significant problem for modern CPUs.
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This is great news for the consumer as we can be in control of our games again.
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Denuvo has no performance impact. It isn't a DRM but an anti tamper to said DRM. What I'd like to know is can the developers claim they saw an uptick in sale of their games while the protection lasted.

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The mere fact that Denuvo requires activation makes it DRM. For some, the fact that it actively PREVENTS one from reverse-engineering the executable makes it DRM. So definitely Digital RESTRICTIONS Management from where I see it.

Also the fact that it has to call home periodically just so you can launch the game makes it DRM:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/379720/discussions/0/357286663675892018/

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1127288&page=1



This is the main reason I will NOT purchase the new DOOM or any game that includes this , very anti consumer practices going on here with the Steam + Denuvo requirement.
post #18 of 154
But why wouldn't you ? All companies are moving in to use some sort of DRM that is going to work in a similar way. Besides, it does not have any impact on overall game performance to make it undesirable
post #19 of 154
Games are just way too expensive nowadays.
Developers forget what a game is- something fun and cheap so everyone can enjoy.
Prices should be maximum $10.
That way a lot more people will buy it and not go searching for torrents. Less piracy more profits.
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Then tell us genius how come game sale did not increase by those 600,000 ?

irrelevant really , you should pay for your games not just take them

nobody should be able to play a game for free that other people have to pay for
In an ideal just world where there are rainbows and cookies, I'll agree with you. But in a dog eat dog world now, anyone and everyone is going to want as many things as he can for free. And pirates in particular don't care how long it takes them to get it they'll have it anyways.
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