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Make games DRM free.

People who wanted to buy it will buy it regardless
Those who didn't won't
Those who didn't will try it and some will now support the company

The biggest way to get pirates to support a company is to probably guilt them with a DRM free product. Make sense?
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post #102 of 154
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Originally Posted by i7monkey View Post

Make games DRM free.

People who wanted to buy it will buy it regardless
Those who didn't won't
Those who didn't will try it and some will now support the company

The biggest way to get pirates to support a company is to probably guilt them with a DRM free product. Make sense?

the biggest earners to day are mostly F2P games.
they don't hide behind a paywall thus it can be played just by simply downloading the game.
why can't devs understand that doing all these DRM nonsense is just a waste of time.


Edited by epic1337 - 8/9/16 at 9:48pm
post #103 of 154
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Make games DRM free.

People who wanted to buy it will buy it regardless
Those who didn't won't
Those who didn't will try it and some will now support the company

The biggest way to get pirates to support a company is to probably guilt them with a DRM free product. Make sense?

Also, make a good game and people will buy it. Just look at The Witcher 3 - this is how a game should be. The base game is already phenomenal, there are a few minor small free DLCs (extra quests, alternative looks for characters etc.), and there is paid DLC - but DLC like it should be: hours long of original content, that's worth the price. Both DLCs add so much content, they could also be seen as extensions.

Now look at most of the AAA titles from the last few years - most are just trash. Ubisoft games are the worst form of this. Only occasionally there is a new game that is still good and exciting (speaking of AAA titles here), examples for this for me would be: Deus Ex, The Witcher.
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Xenoblade Chronicles X on Wii U has a world that is larger than The Witcher 3, Fallout 4 and Skyrim- combined.

It also has NO DLC. Not even "minor free DLC". 8 months after release and there is literally no DLC. That means, the entire game comes on the disc with nothing cut out, and nothing to add.

You also get mechs. That can fly.

This is how a game should be. smile.gif
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post #105 of 154
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Xenoblade Chronicles X on Wii U has a world that is larger than The Witcher 3, Fallout 4 and Skyrim- combined.

It also has NO DLC. Not even "minor free DLC". 8 months after release and there is literally no DLC. That means, the entire game comes on the disc with nothing cut out, and nothing to add.

You also get mechs. That can fly.

This is how a game should be. smile.gif

world size means nothing about the quality of the game, since by this logic PC minecraft with it's never-ending world generation would thoroughly shame every AAA game published.
Edited by epic1337 - 8/10/16 at 12:11am
post #106 of 154
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Good for people who bought games protected by Denuvo. Now they don't have to worry about not being able to play the game one day, when the servers go offline.

i guess you don't realize pirated games can't connect to servers, unless a pirate sets up their own . . . so yeah, no multi player; so those that paid ALWAYS has that advantage.

It's rather about Denuvo/DRM servers going down.No activation=No game

Pirates discovered activation backup long before first cracks started to show up.

Originals can also benefit from methods developed in pirate communities.

Denuvo Backup(simply copying certain files) allows to play normally even when the game requests reactivation.
LumaEmu(steam DRM emulation) allows to pretty much make the activation permanent and play without steam(not only on Denuvo titles).
You can also tinker with saves as you can change savegame location.
And at last cracks allow offline gameplay,ensure that you can run the game anytime you want and change hardware freely(as hardware change=reactivation).

There's also SteamFix which allows pirates to play multiplayer with no problems. Indeed they can only connect to their own servers/games but the comfort of usage is the same as original (same "join friend" as on original).
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Make games DRM free.

People who wanted to buy it will buy it regardless
Those who didn't won't
Those who didn't will try it and some will now support the company

The biggest way to get pirates to support a company is to probably guilt them with a DRM free product. Make sense?

or better DRM to make sure the only way to play game is by buying it

That is what I would like to see happen and I would imagine publishers and developers will feel the same way

I would not want anyone using my work for free. You want it , then you pay for it
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Make games DRM free.

People who wanted to buy it will buy it regardless
Those who didn't won't
Those who didn't will try it and some will now support the company

The biggest way to get pirates to support a company is to probably guilt them with a DRM free product. Make sense?
You are right, people who are poor and can't afford games wouldn't buy them anyway.

BUT as always in such discussions everyone forgets to mention a massive group of people who aren't poor, but they still pirate because it's free and easy. They have no problem affording and buying a game if it's not crackable because they just want to play it anyway. This is what protections like Denuvo is targeting and it's very successful at it.

And finally DRM free is a humble idea, but it doesn't work. Just because media is quoting Witcher 3 devs time and time again how DRM free model works just fine, they usually never mention that Witcher 3 was most pirated game of that year. It's good that they made a great game and it still managed to make them money even with rampant piracy going in the back, but I'm 100% positive if game wasn't cracked for half a year their sales would be way higher. This guilt thing you are talking about is virtually non existent among pirates.
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World size say's nothing about a game. I'd rather have a game where you only move around in instanced locations but that has a good story with good characters and good mechanics instead of an open world game that is just boring. It's not only the size of the world/map, it's what's in it. That's one of the point of what makes The Witcher 3 so good: You have an open world, but you never feel lost in it, you always easily know what things you can do next, it has memorable characters, the world is filled with interesting stuff and beautiful, story is good, fighting system is fun etc etc.
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Make games DRM free.

People who wanted to buy it will buy it regardless
Those who didn't won't
Those who didn't will try it and some will now support the company

The biggest way to get pirates to support a company is to probably guilt them with a DRM free product. Make sense?

the biggest earners to day are mostly F2P games.
they don't hide behind a paywall thus it can be played just by simply downloading the game.
why can't devs understand that doing all these DRM nonsense is just a waste of time.

I was under the impression that GTA V made much more than those 2 figures combined.
    
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