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So AMD's best version of ZEN will face Cannonlake from Intel at the rate things are goingl. Wow!
 
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Just unlock all the chips AMD. You make consumer happy in every segment.

TBH that would happen but pretty useless, since low and mid range consumers will not really OC their CPUs.
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So in the picture...2016-2017 means "Q4 two thousand sixteen paper launch, Q2 two thousand seventeen availability" and 2017 really means "Q4 two thousand seventeen availability" Intel will be what, on their 2-3rd gen CPU @ 14nm when AMD is launching their first 14nm CPU... Not trying to smash AMD, I believe the company still has some good life left in them but gosh they're moving at a snails pace...

Kinda.
The only issue AMD will have I think is that by the time their zen CPUs for the desktop come out and hit the market, intel will be at 10nm with cannon lake, and if the rumours are true, they will come at 6 or maybe 8 cores.

AMD have been developing zen since 2012. I hope that by the time it is finally out, it will not be outdated already.
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Is anyone else concerned about Zen not supporting pci-e 4.0?

As primarily a gamer, I'm interested in an octa-core CPU mainly for its future proofedness (I only build a whole new system every 3 - 4 years). It worries me that if I jump on the Zen bandwagon, I may end up forced to upgrade earlier than expected just for pic-e 4.0.

I only mention this because I never see this brought up in Zen threads, and I'm genuinely curious what others are thinking on the matter.
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Is anyone else concerned about Zen not supporting pci-e 4.0?

As primarily a gamer, I'm interested in an octa-core CPU mainly for its future proofedness (I only build a whole new system every 3 - 4 years). It worries me that if I jump on the Zen bandwagon, I may end up forced to upgrade earlier than expected just for pic-e 4.0.

I only mention this because I never see this brought up in Zen threads, and I'm genuinely curious what others are thinking on the matter.
You can barely saturate pci-e 2.0, let alone 3.0, and you are worried about 4.0 lol. is it even finalized yet ? and what kind of stuff you do to require that much bandwidth ? cpu will be a bottleneck before pci-e 4 becomes an issue for that kind of workload.
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This looks to be promising, it's a shame that things are moving really slow though.

I'm really looking forward to seeing how Zen performs.
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Is anyone else concerned about Zen not supporting pci-e 4.0?

As primarily a gamer, I'm interested in an octa-core CPU mainly for its future proofedness (I only build a whole new system every 3 - 4 years). It worries me that if I jump on the Zen bandwagon, I may end up forced to upgrade earlier than expected just for pic-e 4.0.

I only mention this because I never see this brought up in Zen threads, and I'm genuinely curious what others are thinking on the matter.

Pci-e 4.0 specification won't be finalized until 2017, so it is likely we won't see a board based on 4.0 well until 2018, so nothing to be concerned.
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You can barely saturate pci-e 2.0, let alone 3.0, and you are worried about 4.0 lol. is it even finalized yet ? and what kind of stuff you do to require that much bandwidth ? cpu will be a bottleneck before pci-e 4 becomes an issue for that kind of workload.

I hope you're right, but as an early socket 754 adopter these kind of things concern me.

Also, not to try and avoid your point, but do bear in mind that I'm thinking about top-spec GPUs in 2019, even 2020.

If my past experience with an overclocked Q6600 is any indication, it's not totally absurd to think pic-e 3.0 could be saturated fully prior to an overclocked 8 core Zen becoming a gaming bottleneck (assuming that Zen is, as I hope, extremely good).

Just my take on things.
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Also, not to try and avoid your point, but do bear in mind that I'm thinking about top-spec GPUs in 2019, even 2020.

If my past experience with an overclocked Q6600 is any indication, it's not totally absurd to think pic-e 3.0 could be saturated fully prior to an overclocked 8 core Zen becoming a gaming bottleneck (assuming that Zen is, as I hope, extremely good).

Just my take on things.

I upgraded my i7 920 to an i7 4770K not so much for performance, or for the new Pcie specification but for SATA3. If anything its the slow storage that's increasing at a faster pace than GPUs.. Now I'm thinking of upgrading again for an M2 slot.

For single card gaming machines, saturating a 16 lane pcie bus would take A LOT of doing. With SLI or Tri-SLI maybe PCIe 3.0 is actually worth it.
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So in the picture...2016-2017 means "Q4 two thousand sixteen paper launch, Q2 two thousand seventeen availability" and 2017 really means "Q4 two thousand seventeen availability" Intel will be what, on their 2-3rd gen CPU @ 14nm when AMD is launching their first 14nm CPU... Not trying to smash AMD, I believe the company still has some good life left in them but gosh they're moving at a snails pace...

If AMD moves slowly, they get blasted for dragging their feet.
If they bring something to market and it has technical glitches, they get blasted for not testing the product enough.

It amazes me that these huge corporations don't come to forums like this one to find their engineering, design, financial and marketing staff. There seems to be experts everywhere.
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