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Yeah, that was the one. I was mistaken. Thanks for the clarification.
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With the pricing AMD have lately for their product.

Their 8-core zen will likely to be complete against the latest Intel 6-core CPU in overall performance. But AMD going to sell about just a hair lower than Intel.

AMD hasnt been very good in price/performance for long time already. Zen's future look grim, likely wont be enough to get Intel move.
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The problem with AMD is not INTEL, it is the INTEL & NVIDIA combo. AMD is not Iron Man to take both Captain America and the Winter Soldier at the same time and inflict Major Damage biggrin.gifthumb.gif!
 
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Whoever did that, he made sure AMD won't die. and Amd is in this position because one of those 2 giants did bad things. anyway, management is idiotic and can't make wise decisions. that is the main problem of their current position.

LoL it's never AMD fault according to some people.

When in reality everything comes back to decision to make Bulldozer architecture and chasing after frequency which was the same mistake Intel did with Pentium IV. Considering how they capitilized on Intel mistake it's beyond idiotic what AMD management did.

Everything else after that comes to that decision since AMD lost server and notebook markets completly and kept a tiny bit of bargain bin home cpu market.
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LoL it's never AMD fault according to some people.
Huh? i said their management is idiotic and can't make wise decisions. that is the main problem of their current position. but you can't really deny whatever intel did, it also made a difference. rolleyes.gif
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LoL it's never AMD fault according to some people.

When in reality everything comes back to decision to make Bulldozer architecture and chasing after frequency which was the same mistake Intel did with Pentium IV. Considering how they capitilized on Intel mistake it's beyond idiotic what AMD management did.

Everything else after that comes to that decision since AMD lost server and notebook markets completly and kept a tiny bit of bargain bin home cpu market.

Bulldozer was supposed to have a much higher IPC, their original goal was to have the highest single and multi-thread performance, and the first CPU was supposed to be out in 2009 on 45nm.

They Had to clock it as high as possible to make up for the IPC deficit, they were in too deep and way too late a couple years later so they had to release what they had.

Even I was able to determine that sharing resources would lead to a lower IPC, way before its release. But they were adamant that it would have a higher IPC vs Phenom II. But Clock for clock P2 was faster.
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Huh? i said their management is idiotic and can't make wise decisions. that is the main problem of their current position. but you can't really deny whatever intel did, it also made a difference. rolleyes.gif

Absolutely, remember how many CEO's they went through as well?

AMD had the chance to join forces with NVIDIA instead of ATI, but they didn't want JHH as CEO, HUGE mistake
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I'm looking forward to what Zen can do, but I'm losing hope that it can deliver good single core performance relative on par with Intels offering for a competitive price.
Skylake-E should come out ~mid next year to, possibly with 8 cores. I don't think AMD can really live up to that.
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Zen was designed by Jesus who designed Athlon so Zen is Athlon , thus Athlon > than Intel offerings tongue.gif!
 
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Zen was designed by Jesus who designed Athlon so Zen is Athlon , thus Athlon > than Intel offerings tongue.gif!
But it'll be produced by Samsung and they might be inferior to Intel in quality.
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I'm looking forward to what Zen can do, but I'm losing hope that it can deliver good single core performance relative on par with Intels offering for a competitive price.
Skylake-E should come out ~mid next year to, possibly with 8 cores. I don't think AMD can really live up to that.
The 2066 X series have up to 10 cores according to WCCF.
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