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I don't even use FB but I've updated my adblocking anyway, thanks FB for making me use a more efficient adblocker lol
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One more reason to not use FB, I never figured out how to use it, Twitter, Instagram and Tumblr are lot more simple and straightforward.
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My firewall and router are ready for you fesbuk
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Oh good.

Rather than look at the root cause of the problem, let's try to fight the symptoms. Because that always works well, doesn't alienate your customer base, and is ultimately cost effective.

Right?

Is it just me or does the ad industry sound remarkably like MPAA / RIAA?

OK, I understand that ad revenue provides income for a lot of sites to function. It is often a necessary evil. However when the ad obscures content, slows down loading of the site, masquerades as content, plays sounds, or detracts in any way from the experience, that is too much.
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I run a local club's Facebook page, and also have to help one member (the club by its nature has a lot of old people) with Facebook. It's truly a pain to have to explain every single time that the post he's seeing is actually an ad.

I'm curious though, will they do it Forbes style (as the title implies), or will they redesign their ads to sneak past the blocker?

EDIT: There are sites where I'm willing to (and in fact often do) disable Adblock, but only if they're willing to do their part.
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Oh good.

Rather than look at the root cause of the problem, let's try to fight the symptoms. Because that always works well, doesn't alienate your customer base, and is ultimately cost effective.

Right?

Is it just me or does the ad industry sound remarkably like MPAA / RIAA?

OK, I understand that ad revenue provides income for a lot of sites to function. It is often a necessary evil. However when the ad obscures content, slows down loading of the site, masquerades as content, plays sounds, or detracts in any way from the experience, that is too much.

As much as I don't like looking at intrusive ads, this is nothing but my preference. It is not sacred, and it is not "my right" to have it my way...the only "right" I have is having the preference, not enforcing the preference.

The system of content creators / hosters / owners is setting the stage for the experience. The consumer's "right" is to turn off the whole thing and walk away if he/she doesn't like the experience, not to directly alter it. If you as a content creator, you feel you are harmed by the way FB hosts your content, just find another platform.

Ad blockers are "cheating the system". Have I been using them? Sure. But I don't brag about my l33t sh33t or "wonder" how "greedy" the companies ad blockers are harming and they fight back.

Sorry, but if you are using ad blocker, you (and I) are not on the moral highground.
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In the long run it will cost them more money to cat and mouse ad blockers rather than just letting ad blockers do their thing.

Whatever floats their boat. Jokes on them, I don't use any of Facebook's "free" services.
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This is what I needed. Another reason not to use FB.

They already try and force what order they "think" I should see posts in my feed (I constantly have to change it to chronological order) and already have sponsored posts mixed throughout my feed. I used to use FB alot, but over the years I have used it less and less in big part because of how they force changes on the users that are not in the user bases best interest. Since they have no real competition any more they can essentially do whatever they want and the users have to live with it.

As for other sites, the moment I see anything that tries and prohibits me from using my ad blocker I simply leave the site. Hopefully sites trying to enforce this realize that people will just get their content from any number of other sites offering the same without risking users safety and privacy. Also, for what its worth, I do not mind ads generally. Its sites that have so many ads that the page takes forever to load then constantly interrupts the content or even makes it impossible to read the content. For a long time I would just leave sites like that but nowadays with all the security threats out there I am not taking the risk of loading all of those ads. Companies like FB should focus on delivering safe and reasonable ads that do not impose on its users, then we wouldnt need to block them.
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As much as I don't like looking at intrusive ads, this is nothing but my preference. It is not sacred, and it is not "my right" to have it my way...the only "right" I have is having the preference, not enforcing the preference.

I'm sorry, where did I say it was a right? If they want to go the Forbes route, fine by me. I'll take my business elsewhere.
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The system of content creators / hosters / owners is setting the stage for the experience. The consumer's "right" is to turn off the whole thing and walk away if he/she doesn't like the experience, not to directly alter it. If you as a content creator, you feel you are harmed by the way FB hosts your content, just find another platform.

As I said, they want to go that route, no problem! I'll close my account. I have no sense of entitlement.
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Ad blockers are "cheating the system". Have I been using them? Sure. But I don't brag about my l33t sh33t or "wonder" how "greedy" the companies ad blockers are harming and they fight back.

Sorry, but if you are using ad blocker, you (and I) are not on the moral highground.

Not claiming any, also not bragging. Merely pointing out that if you don't look at the route cause of the problem, you are unlikely to find a good solution.
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post #20 of 103
Good thing I don't use Facebook.

On the topic of ads, it's almost alien to see advertisements on my relatives 'smart TV.'
I've had an adblocker on every machine and every browser I've ever had for longer than I can remember. Whenever I get into contact with a computer that doesn't have adblock, I'll install ublock origin and have it run in the background.
That will never change for me personally. I'm not receptive to advertising and I never will be; subliminal or direct.

I understand the current 'need' for ads to exist but if I have something I want to support I'll do so in different ways (e.g. just giving money directly to the content creator so there's no giant middleman like google to steal a huge chunk of revenue.)
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