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Originally Posted by robbo2 View Post

Can't access messages on my phone without installing messenger and now desktop will be riddled with more ads. I would dump FB in a heart beat, but sadly to much of my family use it to keep in touch,

I found a way around viewing messages on Android without messenger. Just go to the in-app menu and select the 'request desktop site' option and it should allow you to view messages like before. It shouldn't actually display it as the desktop site either, mine is still in mobile format.
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and violates an implicit social compact

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Honestly, my peak FB usage was 2010-2012... more and more today, social media is too invaded by marketers, never mind ads. Wanna be celebs and sales people are treating the amount of friends as currency... The segment calls them "influencers"

It's turning into a Celeb billboard segment.

It still is good to use to stay in touch with your real, physical friends that live far away.
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post #64 of 103
I didn't even know facebook still existed.
It and everything to come is an internet fad... come and go.


I understand their point, this is all in the 'I agree'.
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I get entitlement to "cherry pick" what I download the same as I am entitled to visit site X and not site Y, the same that I'm entitled to go elsewhere during commercials on the TV and don't have to watch a commercial in order to see the show once they are over. There is no "press X to keep watching your show", with the X so big that it requires a magnifying glass to see it.

No you aren't. You pay for connectivity. You and thousands of other people pay your ISP a monthly subscription for the peering agreements, routing, support, and the ability to connect to other computers in the world that host things like web sites, streaming services, etc with good paths. That is what you get for your money. When you connect to a site you are downloading resources from that site. A site's bandwidth is consumed by you for free. You are not paying for each sites resource consumption. Wikipedia doesn't get its costs reimbursed because you pay your internet bill. The content provider, creator, or owner pays that. As such they are fully able to state that they only allow people who do not have adblock on to connect, they can state they will charge a subscription to view their content or require that all content be viewed unfiltered. You as the consumer, have the right to refuse to those terms by not connecting to the site.

You can go anywhere you want when a commercial starts, but you can't skip them. You can go to the other room, change the channel, it doesn't matter, but you can't make the show skip its commercial break. Also for those people who say "Well, I can record it and skip it", not the same thing. You still record the ads. The point is, if you want to watch the next episode of a show the minute it gets released (during its slot on cable, you will have endure those 30-1 minute commercial breaks).
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It is also funny that you talk about tv cables and ads. Netflix doesn't have ads, they are doing very well and provide quite a lot of content.
My local cable TV also provide a lot of content without ads.

Netflix is a paid service. Its the equivalent of paying a subscription to access content. You have to pay 1) your internet bill and 2) your Netflix subscription. By paying Netflix you pay for the bandwidth you consume from them. Hence they don't need ads.
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Is it hypocritical for the host to tell me "your friends liked product X" even if they hadn't, in order to bait me?
Is it hypocritical to bring ads and disguise them as content in your feed?

Don't visit the host.
Don't visit the host.

Nobody puts a gun to your head and says you better access my site and click on all my ads. You are free to not visit the site and therefore not have to click on the ads.
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Everyone are hypocritical in this industry. They are trying to push content on you, bate you to click on ads in extreme unfair ways like scripted mouse clicks or hidden blocks in force pop-ups.
So if they can do it, so can I.

Facebook are not saints. You are trying to make them sound like the poor little guys just trying to make it in the world.
They did not arrive to their billions of tax free wealth by being nice.
How? Does Facebook kick down my door and force me to watch the ads? Does Facebook take control of my computer and force me to watch ads? No it doesn't, and this isn't just Facebook, most people who have adblockers are probably going to block ads on other sites too. What happens if you an educational site or small content creator? How do they get their revenue by you visiting their site?

People keep thinking they are entitled to things. If you want to show Facebook you don't agree with their policy then don't visit Facebook. If that is something you can't do then you need to decide if its worth the effort blocking their ads or just accept it.
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post #66 of 103
I wonder what they plan on doing about people who block facebook altogether?
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Oh look, yet another reason to go from barely using it at all to pretty much ignoring it period....
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I think Ad blockers took things a little too far.

Blocking annoying Ads is one thing, but block everything? That is a bit too much and it doesnt change these site owners to opt for less annoying ads.

Imo what Ad blockers need is to block all the Ads but Only Plain static image, we need to head back to 1995s-2000 era where ads are just plain static image.

I am fine with having ads that just plain static image. No pop-up, video/audio or flash/html5.
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post #69 of 103
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Originally Posted by CULLEN View Post

What I read.

"Facebook inspires developers to make even better ad-blockers, oh and the hosts files has just been updated"

Problem is that facebook actually make a ton of money on their service, so they have the resources to go make a solution that go around any current method ad-blockers use today.

The ad-blockers however doesnt make a lot of money, so either it will take time to make a counter solution or it may never happen
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I think Ad blockers took things a little too far.

Blocking annoying Ads is one thing, but block everything? That is a bit too much and it doesnt change these site owners to opt for less annoying ads.

Imo what Ad blockers need is to block all the Ads but Only Plain static image, we need to head back to 1995s-2000 era where ads are just plain static image.

I am fine with having ads that just plain static image. No pop-up, video/audio or flash/html5.
I fully agree with you, ABP is heading in that direction with their "allow some non intrusive ads"... I enabled it but i still dont see any adverts(maybe noscript still stopping them but i never tested it.)
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