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The amount of storage consumers need hasn't really increased that much year over year. The need for storage is felt most in the data center with big companies like Google and FB storing all this data.

For consumers 20MP phones are nowadays quite common (even though they are garbage and outclassed by 8MP real cameras)
Gotta love those non accurate or interpolated pixels taking up extra room. So picture size quadruppled over the past 5 years. (5MP then to 20 now not taking into account better compression and double data)

Games gotten bigger but not really because games are bigger. The main reason for huge games is that they make P2P sharing harder. And it really shows with lossless repacks being about half the size.
High end games went from ~1GB in 1995, about 2GB in 2000, 2-8 GB in 2005, ~10GB 2010, 20-60 GB in 2015 and beyond.

Video hasn't really gotten much bigger over time 480P 720P and 1080P are still the main formats it comes in.
However there has been an increase in the use of FLAC audio and heavy 10 bit video.

I don't think a normal consumer needs more than a TB of space at all. I myself have been getting by on 250 GB for a while now and with compression on everything this is actually quite doable I have no space to keep anime or series though.

Really the thing that mostly increases storage need is video. For 480p era 500GB HDDs where norm. Now for 1080p era 3TB drivers are norm. For 4K it's going to be ~ 10 TB. 8K will take so long to come. For 4K to reach the level of 1080p right now will take 3-4 years and 8K another 8-10 years.
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It's time to dump that 3.5 HDD into garbage. We need something new, small, and portable. This 60TB SSD is a major change to this world. I love to have this. Great job Seagate!!!
    
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It's time to dump that 3.5 HDD into garbage. We need something new, small, and portable. This 60TB SSD is a major change to this world. I love to have this. Great job Seagate!!!
We need something new, small, and portable, so we should replace our 3.5" HDD's with....

...a 3.5" SSD.

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imho, 5.25" SSDs would be the future.
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imho, 5.25" SSDs would be the future.

please no.

the less 5.25 crap we have the better.
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imho, 5.25" SSDs would be the future.

Not really. 3.5"SSDs would make far more sense since 3.5" is what DATA centers are already using. All they would need to do to up capacity would be to pull the HHDs that have now and plug in 3.5" SSDs instead. Capacity would increase dramatically and power and cooling requirements would drop without any change to the existing infrastructure.

I've been wondering for quite some time when (or if) someone would do this. Why did it have to be Seagate?
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Not really. 3.5"SSDs would make far more sense since 3.5" is what DATA centers are already using. All they would need to do to up capacity would be to pull the HHDs that have now and plug in 3.5" SSDs instead. Capacity would increase dramatically and power and cooling requirements would drop without any change to the existing infrastructure.

I've been wondering for quite some time when (or if) someone would do this. Why did it have to be Seagate?

the only major issue with that i can see is, when data centers recycle old chassis they usually find their way on to the Ebay.

and there are so many of them the prices drop drastically.

so us enterprisey home users won't get some sweet deals on old hardware

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They wont die because phones, tablets, laptops, small form factor, nucs.

Phones and tablets are exclusively SSD, laptops are moving onto SSDs very quickly, not really sure what you mean by "small form factor", I'm going to assume ITX computers which are moving onto SSDs for pre-builts, almost all NUCs are too small for hard drives.

 

HDDs are dying, I give it 5 years before HDDs are irrelevant for consumers. The price of SSDs has halved over the last couple of years. You can get a 1TB SSD right now for $250, while it's still a lot more than HDDs, they are getting close. Not to mention there is a physical limit to how much data you can store on an HDD so even data centers will eventually move onto SSDs to save space as well as money on electricity bills. SSDs do have a physical limit to how much data you can store as well, but it's much higher HDDs. Manufacturers are struggling to get more than 10TB out of a 3.5" HDD, here is a 60TB 3.5" SSD, this is just the start.

Considering SSD's are magnitudes more expensive than HDD's HDD's will be a necessity for many years to come. I know several people who say they see no difference between an SSD and HDD so they'd rather use a larger HDD than a smaller, more expensive SSD. And if large amounts of storage is needed HDD's are still the preferred method of storage (it is for me).

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It hasn't revealed the price of the unit but says it will offer "the lowest cost per gigabyte for flash available today".

Hmm. Lets see. If current samsung evo prices are anything to go by then evo 850 costs ~ 3/ GB.
60TB * 1024= 61440GB.
61440GB * 3= 184,320$. Seems unrealistic but lets see. rolleyes.gif
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Hmm. Lets see. If current samsung evo prices are anything to go by then evo 850 costs ~ 3/ GB.
60TB * 1024= 61440GB.
61440GB * 3= 184,320$. Seems unrealistic but lets see. rolleyes.gif

Really $3 per GB? Which Evo? I would say this SSD is 60-100K tops.
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OCZ Agility 3 60GB WD Caviar Green 1.5TB 2 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB XSPC Raystorm 
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EK-FC7970 XSPC RS360 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Corsair TX750 
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NZXT Switch 810  
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Intel Core i7 3770K @ 4.6GHz ASRock Z77E-ITX eVGA GTX 1080 Ti Hybrid AVEXIR Blitz 1.1 16GB DDR3-2400MHz CL10 
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SanDisk Ultra II 960GB Toshiba X300 5TB Corsair H100i GTX eVGA Hybrid Water Cooler  
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4x GentleTyphoon AP-15 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Philips Brilliance BDM4065UC 4K Razer BlackWidow Chroma  
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eVGA SuperNOVA 750 G3 Define Nano S Logitech G502 Proteus Core PECHAM Gaming Mouse Pad XX-Large 
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Audioengine D1 DAC Mackie CR Series CR3 Audio-Technica ATH-M50 Sennheiser HD 598 
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Sony XB950BT 
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AMD Phenom II X4 955 @ 4.2GHz ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB @ 1200/1500 2x 4GB G.SKILL Ripjaws X DDR3-1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
OCZ Agility 3 60GB WD Caviar Green 1.5TB 2 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB XSPC Raystorm 
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EK-FC7970 XSPC RS360 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Corsair TX750 
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NZXT Switch 810  
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