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I would like a new laptop, when are these chips coming out?

Probably not in 2016.
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I didn't know the performance difference was this small (non existent). I'm seeing devil's canyon even outperforming skylake in some cases. Eye opener. Thank you.

You buy new Intel processors because of new chipsets features. Have been like this since Ivy Bridge. Processor performance for gaming hasn't improved much over the last 4 generations.
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As long as AMD match Haswell they will be fine. Everything after that have been pure poop from Intels side anyway.

This would be a great start from AMD
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If these ones are clocked at 2.8... I wouldn't hold my breath for 5, not even 4. If Polaris is any indication of overclocking (Which, to be fair, it shouldn't), I wouldn't expect much overclockability.

The absolute last thing you can tell about a part from the engineering samples are final clock speeds.

Engineering samples have to behave similarly enough to final silicon for platforms to be validated and debugged, but this can be done at almost any clock speed, and it's not at all uncommon for engineering samples to be clocked very low as early silicon is typically very poor.
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I severely doubt they're going to say "40% increased IPC" and it not be able to clock similarly.

Statements about IPC imply next to nothing about clock speeds.

Also, the highest clocked Excavator part is 3.5/3.8GHz (base/boost) and seems to top out at about 4.1-4.2GHz when OCed.
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That would be pr suicide.

Not as much as saying they don't have a competitive part.
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I'd be happy with 4.5ghz though. That's about what Intel chips get usually. Some clock 4.6 and 4.7, but that's about the max as far as averages go.

For AMD to get similarly complex cores to the same clock speeds as their Intel counterparts, given the very significant advantage Intel has in lithography, seems a bit optimistic to me.

I'm hoping for such clock speeds, but I'm not really expecting them to be attainable.
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The OS HAL has to see the threads to use them right, probably M$ Losedows is treating it precisely like it treats the FX PruneDrinkers... by intentionally gimping the threads to keep from log jamming the stack.

Looks very very much like a driver issue... Just like the 9 or so months after BlameDoozie came out and windows wouldn't actually feed it 2 threads per core at all.

Why would losedows gimp AMD CPUs ?
Also, are you saying losedows 8 and 10 still unable to see AMD FX's cores clearly ?
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With all the hype AMD is giving Zen, an 8-core 16-thread Zen should be as fast or faster than a 4 core, 8 thread Kaby Lake or 8-core 16-thread broadwell-E in 2017.
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Well in my opinion,if Polaris is anything to go by,Zen will be just as big of a disappointment.So those who are waiting for Zen to build new PC,i don't see the point.How many times will AMD disappoint us before people come to their senses?
    
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With all the hype AMD the community is giving Zen, an 8-core 16-thread Zen should be as fast or faster than a 4 core, 8 thread Kaby Lake or 8-core 16-thread broadwell-E in 2017.
FTFY. I haven't seen much of jack anything about about zen to say AMD is the one hyping it. Just endless speculation by people who don't understand what they are really looking at when it comes to a CPU.
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Well in my opinion,if Polaris is anything to go by,Zen will be just as big of a disappointment.So those who are waiting for Zen to build new PC,i don't see the point.How many times will AMD disappoint us before people come to their senses?

Who says Polaris is a disappointment? disappointing to the crazy fanboys who hyped it up to the moon perhaps. I'm personally quite happy with Polaris. It does exactly what it is supposed to do.
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