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Originally Posted by Master__Shake View Post

you could have 32 today if you go with some slightly used e5-2670's

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I'll wait to see zen prices, guessing it will still be cheaper than those (I try to refrain from buying used hardware).
 
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In your specific case I think they just did.

If this is real, this engineering sample at 2.8ghz, zen is already hitting just about 40% faster than your FX8350 at stock. If the final chip sits at 3.6ghz or higher, it will be as fast as a Devil's Canyon. If it can overclock even halfway decently (4.3ghz or greater under water), it likely ties a Skylake.

Now, considering how many of us on here have already said we'd be happy with even just "a bit more than Ivy Bridge performance," I think we are about to see the emergance of competition in the CPU sector.

Im dying to see a synthetic bench leak now, so we can see how all 16 threads work, and get a better idea of just how high rhat 40% single thread increase might get by release.

My personal prediction is that the final version of Zen at max 24 hour overclock trades blows with Skylake.

 

I'd be happy with the bit more than Ivy Bridge performance, because that would mean that AMD isn't entirely uncompetitive. Particularly depending on pricing, this thing will either be uncompetitive, or barely competitive with Intel's offerings. And that won't be enough to capture the larger market imo. Capturing AMD users moving to AMD is one thing, but getting Intel users (a much larger market) to move to AMD is another.

 

However, I wouldn't purchase it in the slightest if it is Ivy Bridge performance, or very close to it. Making a good CPU is one thing. Making a good CPU worth moving to is another thing. And if it doesn't support XPoint, I'm not moving to it in the slightest, because there is more to a computer than just the CPU. You have to think of the entire platform. I'm due to update my rig since I need more SATA3 ports (and want XPoint/NVMe support). And there are a lot of us on Sandy Bridge/Ivy that are in a similar situation. AMD needs to come up with a part that exceeds Intel or they really are only just going to maintain the status quo.

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Dissappointing if true.


I don't want another AMD proc that's only good for running multi-threaded workloads. Need something that trades blows with Intel in modern games. Not interested otherwise.
    
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If the 8 core Zen can beat my OC 4930K then I will absolutely have found my new platform moving forward. Wonder what the chances of that happening actually are?
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I'll wait to see zen prices, guessing it will still be cheaper than those (I try to refrain from buying used hardware).

thinking it's not going to be cheaper than 150 for 2.

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the motherboard is where they get you though.
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post #56 of 306
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thinking it's not going to be cheaper than 150 for 2.

wink.gif

the motherboard is where they get you though.

Yeah and those are used. Show me where you can buy 2 for $150 nib.

Beside that would require yet another case change which I am trying to avoid.
 
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I'd be happy with the bit more than Ivy Bridge performance, because that would mean that AMD isn't entirely uncompetitive. Particularly depending on pricing, this thing will either be uncompetitive, or barely competitive with Intel's offerings. And that won't be enough to capture the larger market imo. Capturing AMD users moving to AMD is one thing, but getting Intel users (a much larger market) to move to AMD is another.

However, I wouldn't purchase it in the slightest if it is Ivy Bridge performance, or very close to it. Making a good CPU is one thing. Making a good CPU worth moving to is another thing. And if it doesn't support XPoint, I'm not moving to it in the slightest, because there is more to a computer than just the CPU. You have to think of the entire platform. I'm due to update my rig since I need more SATA3 ports (and want XPoint/NVMe support). And there are a lot of us on Sandy Bridge/Ivy that are in a similar situation. AMD needs to come up with a part that exceeds Intel or they really are only just going to maintain the status quo.

No I understand. im just reminding people what their initial expectations were.

As it stands, this leak is hinting at close to Haswell performance. So my point was the Ivy Bridge thing might already be a mute point.
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No, you must remember that future Zen 8 Cores/16 Threads as we know it is only 95W TDP chip.This Zen is real 8 Cores CPU, not a Piledriver 8 Cores CPU=in reality 4 Cores/ 8 Threads CPU.

Zen 8 Cores/16 Threads final chip, expect only up to maximum of 3GHz stock and nothing more.Look at this picture, and pay attention to 22nm Haswell-E and 14nm Broadwell-E defoult CPU frequency, both processors have 140W TDP.

As an example if you using Sony Vegas Pro, or video full power encoding and production this Haswell-E or Brodwell-E will run at 3ghz.

Samsung 14nm FinFet is not Intel High performanse 22nm, and especially not a clone of Intel 14nm FinFet process technology. wink.gif


Touche. I was unaware we already knew max clock on these things. Nonetheless, I'll hold out hope for at least 3.8 to 4.0 Ghz overclock.

Either way, at least the chip is hinting at expectations for once.
Edited by yawa - 8/10/16 at 7:36pm
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If that's a 4c4t cpu, well great. If it's not.... welp.

Game only uses up to six threads anyway, a total of eight utilized threads would probably result in more performance if utilized.

You also don't count the clock rate which is significantly lower than the Intel counter part.
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pretty simple guys

Take FX8350 down clock to 3.5GHz + disable turbo.
Take 5960X OC to 3.5GHz + disable turbo

Bench both of them with HT enabled & disabled on 5960X.

take the FX8350 result + add 40% and see if it match the 5960X or not?

why bother compare with quad core? there way i see it, this a giant truck of salt.
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If the 8 core Zen can beat my OC 4930K then I will absolutely have found my new platform moving forward. Wonder what the chances of that happening actually are?

Same here. Can't wait to back to AMD. 8C/16T looks so good in paper but so did 8-Core FailDozer.
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