Originally Posted by yawa
In your specific case I think they just did.
If this is real, this engineering sample at 2.8ghz, zen is already hitting just about 40% faster than your FX8350 at stock. If the final chip sits at 3.6ghz or higher, it will be as fast as a Devil's Canyon. If it can overclock even halfway decently (4.3ghz or greater under water), it likely ties a Skylake.Now, considering how many of us on here have already said we'd be happy with even just "a bit more than Ivy Bridge performance," I think we are about to see the emergance of competition in the CPU sector.
Im dying to see a synthetic bench leak now, so we can see how all 16 threads work, and get a better idea of just how high rhat 40% single thread increase might get by release.
My personal prediction is that the final version of Zen at max 24 hour overclock trades blows with Skylake.
I'd be happy with the bit more than Ivy Bridge performance, because that would mean that AMD isn't entirely uncompetitive. Particularly depending on pricing, this thing will either be uncompetitive, or barely competitive with Intel's offerings. And that won't be enough to capture the larger market imo. Capturing AMD users moving to AMD is one thing, but getting Intel users (a much larger market) to move to AMD is another.
However, I wouldn't purchase it in the slightest if it is Ivy Bridge performance, or very close to it. Making a good CPU is one thing. Making a good CPU worth moving to is another thing. And if it doesn't support XPoint, I'm not moving to it in the slightest, because there is more to a computer than just the CPU. You have to think of the entire platform. I'm due to update my rig since I need more SATA3 ports (and want XPoint/NVMe support). And there are a lot of us on Sandy Bridge/Ivy that are in a similar situation. AMD needs to come up with a part that exceeds Intel or they really are only just going to maintain the status quo.