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The products are still lacking compared to the HDR monitor hype that was built at the end of last year and then reaffirmed with the recent video card unveiling. This monitor just got announced. The first in a long time that looks interesting even though I'd prefer something higher resolution.

https://pcmonitors.info/samsung/samsung-c24fg70-144hz-curved-va-monitor-with-freesync/

24" 1920x1080 curved monitor
3000:1 static contrast
8-bit color likely without dithering
flicker-free Quantum Dot backlight
125% sRGB
144hz with Freesync
€449 RRP

If it was 2560x1440 I'd buy it.
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Originally Posted by KingGreasy View Post

The products are still lacking compared to the HDR monitor hype that was built at the end of last year and then reaffirmed with the recent video card unveiling. This monitor just got announced. The first in a long time that looks interesting even though I'd prefer something higher resolution.

https://pcmonitors.info/samsung/samsung-c24fg70-144hz-curved-va-monitor-with-freesync/

24" 1920x1080 curved monitor
3000:1 static contrast
8-bit color likely without dithering
flicker-free Quantum Dot backlight
125% sRGB
144hz with Freesync
€449 RRP

If it was 2560x1440 I'd buy it.
A 1440p 21:9 100 Hz version with similar curvature will release shortly after.
    
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Sorry, but none of that takes away from my points that 24" & 27" are not what size gamers ultimately seek. These Dells are released for the dorm types who are looking to compromise & have little space, etc.

My question was, why build a new rig with a 24" monitor, when you can do it with a 34". 


That statement caused others to start in on price. While I instead insisted sacrifice and budgeting for what they want, instead of what they can afford that day.

Could you imagine a world where everyone does not have 1200$ to spend for a freaking monitor ? Probably not.
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Sorry, but none of that takes away from my points that 24" & 27" are not what size gamers ultimately seek. These Dells are released for the dorm types who are looking to compromise & have little space, etc.

My question was, why build a new rig with a 24" monitor, when you can do it with a 34". 


That statement caused others to start in on price. While I instead insisted sacrifice and budgeting for what they want, instead of what they can afford that day.

So, you took a poll and know what size monitors gamers ultimately seek? Most gamers still buy in the 24-27" range for a reason. Price might be one thing, but don't discount practicality and common sense... You know, with average desk space, view distance, and all that.

Moving on to actual performance... Where are the 34"+ 2k/4k monitors that are 1ms and 144hz+? They don't yet exist (at least not commonly), and therefore are subjectively inferior to me. Even if they were common, I am not going to get a monitor so big that I have to turn my head the slightest bit to see all of the action on the screen. Yes, your counter to that is bigger setup/gaming chair/etc. Sorry, I don't "seek" that. I like my traditional setup at my desk. If I wanted to kick back and play casually I'd be sitting on the couch with a controller in my hand staring at a big ass TV.

As a few have already said, monitor purchases can be very subjective. You are trying to boil it down to something as simple as "bigger is better", when that is FAR from the case.
     
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The products are still lacking compared to the HDR monitor hype that was built at the end of last year and then reaffirmed with the recent video card unveiling. This monitor just got announced. The first in a long time that looks interesting even though I'd prefer something higher resolution.

https://pcmonitors.info/samsung/samsung-c24fg70-144hz-curved-va-monitor-with-freesync/

24" 1920x1080 curved monitor
3000:1 static contrast
8-bit color likely without dithering
flicker-free Quantum Dot backlight
125% sRGB
144hz with Freesync
€449 RRP

If it was 2560x1440 I'd buy it.

If that thing is really 1ms, that is amazing for that panel. Would love to see a 27" 2k version though! biggrin.gif
     
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As has already been said, don't feed the troll. Its obvious to anybody with half a brain that a monitor purchase is probably the single most subjective part of your rig that you can buy. Some want big monitors with high refresh rates. Others want the highest possible ppi they can get. Yet others want to get the best value they can find in a monitor. There is NO right answer, buy whatever you want and stop telling people their personal monitor preferences are somehow "wrong".
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Sorry, but none of that takes away from my points that 24" & 27" are not what size gamers ultimately seek. These Dells are released for the dorm types who are looking to compromise & have little space, etc.

My question was, why build a new rig with a 24" monitor, when you can do it with a 34". 


That statement caused others to start in on price. While I instead insisted sacrifice and budgeting for what they want, instead of what they can afford that day.

Because youd have to sit so far away from the monitor.. Its hard to play seriously on anything above 24", you need the over sight. I think dell will sell alot of these, first in the market aswell. Problem is, there is alot coming soon. : S
Edited by zzuper - 8/19/16 at 2:36am
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With a "desk" that's three feet deep (super cheap, tall, easy to clean, basically the best thing I've ever seen: http://www.staples.com/Office-Star-Worksmart-36-Folding-Table-White-BT36-/product_126452), I still find myself looking "around" on a 27" monitor.

Really this all comes back to a ratio of visual acuity, resolution, and seating distance. 4K on 24" is fine for me, not for other people, I would probably be annoyed with a 40" monitor unless every game had a sufficiently wide FOV.
Oppositely, I feel like 24" monitors aren't a problem unless you're specifically using a really wide FOV. If you're playing Call of Duty or something that restricts your FOV, then 24" is probably fine.
If you have good eyes then you can get away with using a pretty small monitor, you might even prefer it since higher density information keeps more of the relevant data under your Fovea.

I will make the argument that people should be sitting farther away from their monitors though.
I was pleasantly surprised to read that the average resting point of the human eye is around 3' away (https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/38otw1/dk2s_focus_distance/). For a long time I've had a hunch that it was a good idea to go farther back, and now VR specs are agreeing with that assumption.
You should experience less eye fatigue with a longer viewing distance (up to about 5' or so).
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If that thing is really 1ms

No such thing as 1ms. Not even with TN panel.
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No such thing as 1ms. Not even with TN panel.

Depends on the metric used, right? And location on the screen it is measured? Whatever... If it is "1ms" by TN standards I'd still be thrilled, obviously. Not going to argue over semantics.
     
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