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Well..   nobody really wants 24"...  that was like 15 years ago bro.

Since then, we went to 27" for gaming, then onto 30" (w/better aspect ratio), then to 34" wide screen(x34, etc)...  now the market is moving into large format 40" Oleds @ 4k. Which is what most, if not nearly all the Gamers will land on, in the next coming years. Anything past 90hz seems to work real well. I'd rather have latency free 80hz, than 144hz for gaming. If you get solid hz, you do not need g-sync/freesync.



Personally, I have been waiting a very long time, to regain the feeling of my SONY FW900.. and I know many more are waiting for the day we get back there with modern equipment. But, what you are asking for already exists, but 27" isn't a winner & that size doesn't help anyone who actually building such a rig. 27" it is budget at this point... not a way forward. Or basis for wishing to build a rig around, etc.

Consequently, 34" Gaming monitors exists, so why would you WANT a 27" monitor instead?

That is nuts what you are saying. Yeah I really want to sit in front of a 40 inch 4k monitor. Really? If I want to game like that. I will use my 65" 4k tv. 27 is to big. I hate that I got it listening to people. ZOMG teh 27" 1440p G-Sync is boss. No. 24" is perfect. I will never go past a 24" monitor ever again.
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27''-34'' is a very sweet spot for PC gaming and that's it. What I don't get is why are they deliberately slowing PC monitor advancement, WHY? I hope that NO ONE will buy those new super stupid 1080p on a 43'' panels and 1080p on a 27'' panels. Greedy AND stupid manufacturers!
    
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That's a completely false statement, no matter what the answer he would give you is. Its impossible to say definitively what monitor people "should" be buying because there are so many differing needs and desires amongst monitor consumers. I, for instance, prefer high resolution over high frame rate, but also am not about to spend over $1000 for a monitor. Others are fine with TN panels as long as they are blazingly fast and resolution is of secondary concern. Still others define any monitor that is not at least 4K as useless. As long as there continues to be such diversity of needs there can never be any one type of monitor that would fit all of those requirements adequately. That's just an arrogant statement to make...

 

 

OK, let me rephrase that for you, so you understand him morAr correctly....   "There is only one monitor people should be buying (for their eyes & well being, as a non-compromising purchase) and it is not a Dell"

 

 

 

Also, why artificially limit yourself to an arbitrary number like $1,000 ..? It seems like a mental illness, to throw up a road block in front of yourself like that.

 

Believe it or not, but many people don't shop with their wallet, but based on need/premise. If you are at a computer more than 4h a day, then what you are looking at all day long is NOT a $500 video card, or a $200 PSU, or a $200 computer case, or a $300 cpu...  those are just components attached to your display. Essentially, You are staring at your MONITOR all day..

 

Your monitor is ALL of your computer system, wrapped up in that exact moment, in your face. It should be the single most expensive component of your system. If you have not figured this out, go to college and take logic classes.

 

 

The irony is that most people can afford the monitor they want...  but there isn't enough GPU to push them glitch free. So now video cards are starting to come out, that Push $1200+ monitors. That is... why so many are rejoicing at gtx1080/Titan and the up-and-coming vega/volta, is because purchasing a GPU & monitor go hand & hand.

 

Budgeting works...  I've skipped meals to get what I want. Can't ever remember the exact meals I skipped, but always remember what I was able to buy.

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Consequently, 34" Gaming monitors exists, so why would you WANT a 27" monitor instead?

Do we have a single 34" monitor that isn't plagued by QC issues, low resolution, poor motion clarity, input lag or other dealbreaker?
   
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That is nuts what you are saying. Yeah I really want to sit in front of a 40 inch 4k monitor. Really? If I want to game like that. I will use my 65" 4k tv. 27 is to big. I hate that I got it listening to people. ZOMG teh 27" 1440p G-Sync is boss. No. 24" is perfect. I will never go past a 24" monitor ever again.

 

*laughing on floor*

 

 

You don't actually believe yourself, do you...?

 

LOL... so tell us, is it BECAUSE you like sitting with a monitor stuck to your keyboard and right in your face... and that is why you happen to like a 24" monitor. Because you can get is as close to your face as possible..?  OR is it simply that... a 24" monitor is the correct workaround, for where you computer is located..?

 

And if you were building a computer room, for gaming would you still use your current seating configuration & desk for your new computer room, or would you design the room for a gaming chair, orbital keyboard try & much more space..? To allow yourself to sit back from the monitor?

 

 

 

BTW.. my Xbox S is attached to my 65" UHD. That has nothing to do with PC gaming. The point you are trying to make is that you like to sit very close when gaming on a PC...  but I suspect, you do that because you do not have a 40" monitor, but instead a paltry 24" gaming monitor.

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*laughing on floor*


You don't actually believe yourself, do you...?

LOL... so tell us, is it BECAUSE you like sitting with a monitor stuck to your keyboard and right in your face... and that is why you happen to like a 24" monitor. Because you can get is as close to your face as possible..?  OR is it simply that... a 24" monitor is the correct workaround, for where you computer is located..?

And if you were building a computer room, for gaming would you still use your current seating configuration & desk for your new computer room, or would you design the room for a gaming chair, orbital keyboard try & much more space..? To allow yourself to sit back from the monitor?



BTW.. my Xbox S is attached to my 65" UHD. That has nothing to do with PC gaming. The point you are trying to make is that you like to sit very close when gaming on a PC...  but I suspect, you do that because you do not have a 40" monitor, but instead a paltry 24" gaming monitor.

Wow... give it a rest Mr Self-Righteous. Maybe read your post back to yourself out loud and think about what you sound like. "Paltry".... really?

Different people have different needs. The end. I, for example, have owned many desks large and small and have never found the need to exceed the 24-27" range for PC gaming. It has nothing to do with money either. I COULD utilize more of the room for my gaming needs and build something much more grand, but I just don't want to use up the space. I have a family and other hobbies, so other things take precedent.
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OK, let me rephrase that for you, so you understand him morAr correctly....   "There is only one monitor people should be buying (for their eyes & well being, as a non-compromising purchase) and it is not a Dell"

 

 

 

Also, why artificially limit yourself to an arbitrary number like $1,000 ..? It seems like a mental illness, to throw up a road block in front of yourself like that.

 

 

I don't think that having a budget is a sign of any sort of mental illness. Reading through your last couple of posts in this thread, however, has convinced me that you may be a prime candidate for a few. Display purchases are amongst the most subjective purchases we make as enthusiasts. GPU's and CPU's provide us with statistics indicating their potential performance. We buy monitors based on 'look', 'feel', and 'comfort level'. IMO because of that inherent subjectivity, there is no wrong choice in purchasing a monitor, just as there is no wrong choice in purchasing a keyboard or a mouse. What is good for you may not be good for Harry, Ted, or Sally. 

     
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=O

What is it?

Wasabi Mango that's the only display anyone ever needs. $600 for a 40" 4K Panel with 5ms. It uses a Samsung panel but is one of the best. It also supports freesync.
Not only is the response time NOT 5 ms, the monitor is 60 Hz and is not available to a very big chunk of consumers (Europe, for instance) without import fees and VAT accrued to the original price.

"ANYONE ever needs"...
    
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Right.

The 27in 1080p is for people who like to sit further away or have poorer eye-sight or like pixel accuracy. Nothing anyone can do about that. I had one and it was great for reading further away from the screen without having to make zoom adjustments. Decent enough at $250, with FreeSync.

The 24in 1440P being TN is to optimize motion clarity in ULMB at a small cost to color quality. To those who don't know, IPS exhibits significant ghosting due to 4x slower pixel response times. Not sure what 2560x1440 in 24inches does to PPI, but on 27inches and a distance of about 2.5ft-3ft, I can't pick out individual pixels. If the PPI is dense enough, you may even forego some AA to gain performance back. thumb.gif
 
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1440p on the 24" and 1080 on the 27"... what?

Yeah, even I am like...what the crud. Especially 1080p on a 27 incher. Thats just crazy.

I like my current monitor I bought off a peep here. 27 inch with 2560 x 1440P. It is nice to game on, but I really love it when I can have several programs smack to each other while working on class work or coding for a class. Reason sometimes I want to nab a ultrawide, not to game on, but to have several programs open at once.
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4k DSR resolution on a 1080p monitor is still nothing but 1920x1080 pixels, not really giving you any new visual information. Fancy anti-aliasing if you wish.

Yep, I have done that back with a OG Titan with Skyrim on 1080P. Pretty much a waste of resources. Better off just doing a slight downsampling with sweetFX smacked on top.
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Is there really something wrong with the S2417DG except for the panel type?

If it had been IPS and a little bigger like closer to 26 inch or so, or at lest been a ultrawide.. I may have toy with idea. Though, I don't really mind a 24 inch. Since right now I can't go past a 27 inch monitor (not enough room for one). Plus, this 27 inch I have atm feels big enough. My Dell 30 inch Ultrasharp is huge to me, but that one is not for gaming at all.
     
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