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How about no Dell...

Dell's monitors are friggan GOOD. I've had the old E228WFP 1680x1050 for like eight years or some nonsense. Every monitor from it's generation that I've seen are still kicking strong with better pictures than most monitors out there. Just sayin.

Other than that, yeah, I'd say no to a Dell computer any day.
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Cant believe youre talking about these sync stuff in a serious manner.. This is overclock.net, pure hertz and lowest possible latency is where its at.. SPEED.

Problem i have, which might be typical for alot of consumers, is that the relativly old 120hz monitor i got is still pretty good, im tempted to upgrade to the 24" for res+hz increase, but watching the new asus monitors using the higher bandwidth to pump even more hz or higher res makes me wonder how long before dell upgrades their line, or a 4k 24" 120hz comes out..

I feel alot of people have a bad memory from that cheap tnmonitor they had long ago.. Modern premium tnpanels arent that bad, ive seen many ips that are worse!
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Cant believe youre talking about these sync stuff in a serious manner.. This is overclock.net, pure hertz and lowest possible latency is where its at.. SPEED.

Problem i have, which might be typical for alot of consumers, is that the relativly old 120hz monitor i got is still pretty good, im tempted to upgrade to the 24" for res+hz increase, but watching the new asus monitors using the higher bandwidth to pump even more hz or higher res makes me wonder how long before dell upgrades their line, or a 4k 24" 120hz comes out..

I feel alot of people have a bad memory from that cheap tnmonitor they had long ago.. Modern premium tnpanels arent that bad, ive seen many ips that are worse!


XL2410T... *Shudders*
I want to watch that monitor die in a fire.

After using a 60hz 4K monitor for a few months I discovered that the low refresh rate isn't nearly as jarring as I expected, as long as I keep the framerate somewhere around 120fps.

Half the reason high refresh rates are great is the lack of input lag, and you can at least get some of that clean snappy feel if you render two frames within a single refresh cycle. Even though your monitor is outputting frames 16ms apart, if you're rendering a new frame every 8ms, then you're still getting 8ms input lag ("per frame").

120hz looks way better, and really at this point there's no reason for 60hz monitors to exist anymore, but as long as interface bandwidth is a limitation (e.g. 4K over DP1.2) I'm at least willing to use a lower refresh rate monitor as long as I can keep the framerate at an even multiple of the refresh rate.
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Maybe someone here can clarify something, why do you think 1440p on 24" isn't good? I mean I have a u2515h and it's fantastic, I've used 27" 1080p and I always thought they look like someone stretched a desktop over a bigger surface. If you have no eye problems and are okey using ctrl +- sometimes, why wouldn't you want higher PPI?
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Don't bother SZ, I've seen this guy's posts on plenty of other threads and they all share the same basic premise: "I don't have any idea what I'm talking about but I'll be annoying and insulting to cover up for that fact and if anybody calls me on it I'll hurl more insults their way til they shut up or the thread gets locked!" A simple concept such as "monitors are subjective so there is NO correct one to buy" is simply beyond is feeble grasp...

To be fair monitors do have tech specs, you can determine their quality based on panel (ips vs va vs tn), coating, 144hz/60hz, gsync/freesync, ulmb etc. I've been reading reviews for monitors and there are pages and pages of analysis of gamma, contrasts, viewing angles, color conformity, color warmth, etc. But I get your point, a friend of mine wanted to buy a new monitor and wanted 144hz, turns out he never owned an IPS in his life so the TN colors didn't bother him at all. In that sense it is a subjective determination, which monitors is better suited for your needs.
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I don't think that having a budget is a sign of any sort of mental illness. Reading through your last couple of posts in this thread, however, has convinced me that you may be a prime candidate for a few. Display purchases are amongst the most subjective purchases we make as enthusiasts. GPU's and CPU's provide us with statistics indicating their potential performance. We buy monitors based on 'look', 'feel', and 'comfort level'. IMO because of that inherent subjectivity, there is no wrong choice in purchasing a monitor, just as there is no wrong choice in purchasing a keyboard or a mouse. What is good for you may not be good for Harry, Ted, or Sally. 

 

Having a budget, doesn't mean having to limit yourself.

I went without food for days in college, to keep my BBS up & running. And later, with much sacrifice I was also able to afford my per hour internet.

 

That is budgeting.

 

 

 

Secondly, there is the mental illness that tells One's self, that they have to have it now..! And another mental illness of self imposed limits of price, instead of allowing your needs to direct a purchase. So, if you happen need/want a larger monitor, then it will just take LONGER to get it. It doesn't mean you can't afford it, that is self imposed.

 

That is the only different between a $500 monitor and a unobtainable $1000 monitor. Is the months you'd have to save to buy it.

 

 

 

Coincidentally, I don't care how my posts come off. Everything I own, I have it because I sacrificed in my life. I was given nothing... and afford things by budgeting for them. 

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To be fair monitors do have tech specs, you can determine their quality based on panel (ips vs va vs tn), coating, 144hz/60hz, gsync/freesync, ulmb etc. I've been reading reviews for monitors and there are pages and pages of analysis of gamma, contrasts, viewing angles, color conformity, color warmth, etc. But I get your point, a friend of mine wanted to buy a new monitor and wanted 144hz, turns out he never owned an IPS in his life so the TN colors didn't bother him at all. In that sense it is a subjective determination, which monitors is better suited for your needs.



That is a good point. For me, I will not own an IPS panel until they have a 1ms response time (or something better with 1ms comes along...). It's TN for now. 1ms/144hz is what is most important to ME.
     
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Having a budget, doesn't mean having to limit yourself.
I went without food for days in college, to keep my BBS up & running. And later, with much sacrifice I was also able to afford my per hour internet.

That is budgeting.



Secondly, there is the mental illness that tells One's self, that they have to have it now..! And another mental illness of self imposed limits of price, instead of allowing your needs to direct a purchase. So, if you happen need/want a larger monitor, then it will just take LONGER to get it. It doesn't mean you can't afford it, that is self imposed.

That is the only different between a $500 monitor and a unobtainable $1000 monitor. Is the months you'd have to save to buy it.



Coincidentally, I don't care how my posts come off. Everything I own, I have it because I sacrificed in my life. I was given nothing... and afford things by budgeting for them. 

Seeing as budgeting should include basic necessities, going without food for DAYS is not really "budgeting" at all...

And get off the soapbox already. Your "sacrifices" certainly don't make you right and you aren't the first person who has sacrificed anything to get what they want... It's just that most people have the tact not to talk about it.
     
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And get off the soapbox already. Your "sacrifices" certainly don't make you right and you aren't the first person who has sacrificed anything to get what they want... It's just that most people have the tact not to talk about it.
And the common sense to eat.
    
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Sorry, but none of that takes away from my points that 24" & 27" are not what size gamers ultimately seek. These Dells are released for the dorm types who are looking to compromise & have little space, etc.

 

My question was, why build a new rig with a 24" monitor, when you can do it with a 34". 

 

 

That statement caused others to start in on price. While I instead insisted sacrifice and budgeting for what they want, instead of what they can afford that day.

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