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SInce my card is hanging upside down i've been wondering myself... how can i do a safe shunt mod...



Today i got myself a 3 dollar glue gun biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif

Imagine i put a line of glue around it so the CLU can't' run over

Extreme example smile.gif


Would this work..... or is this a bad bad idea kookoo.gif
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@markklok You could definitely do that. There are other guys who have put electrical tape and other glue stuff around the resistors to help protect from spillage. I would glue the card first, let it dry, then put CLU on. Another option is plastidip. It is rugged, non-conductive, and peels off easily if you need it to without a trace. LN2 overclockers have started using the stuff for insulation from condensation buildup instead of vaseline all over the motherboards and GPUs
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I've re-applied the LM, max tdp is now 43%, but no higher OC or more points in 3Dmark. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

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Hi Dante,

Could you reposte the picture where you reaplied the CLU (extra layer)
Current picture is very small

I'm also in the vertical section and i want to know how much i have to apply to get good results (like yours).
This without letting the CLU run by overdoing it smile.gif
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This is mine (roughly 35% TDP reduction - never hits the limit anymore)
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This is fantastic information, thanks for it.

A few questions:

1.) Why are only two out of three resistors modified? Too much of an effect if you do all three?

2.) How about doing this mod with a conductive silver trace pen instead? Would seem safer. Less chance of it running, and easier to apply.
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This is fantastic information, thanks for it.

A few questions:

1.) Why are only two out of three resistors modified? Too much of an effect if you do all three?

2.) How about doing this mod with a conductive silver trace pen instead? Would seem safer. Less chance of it running, and easier to apply.

with 2 resistors covered you can already drop the cards power limit calculation by 30-35%, which is plenty for any sort of air and water cooling. It gives you so much headroom it would even let you push past what I consider to be safe power draw for the VRM. Also doing all 3 could drop resistance of the circuit too much and that would cause the card to go into fault mode

Silver pen will not work, it has far higher resistance than Liquid Ultra does and probably even more than the 5 milliohm resistors themselves. It wont do anything at all to help you
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with 2 resistors covered you can already drop the cards power limit calculation by 30-35%, which is plenty for any sort of air and water cooling. It gives you so much headroom it would even let you push past what I consider to be safe power draw for the VRM. Also doing all 3 could drop resistance of the circuit too much and that would cause the card to go into fault mode

Silver pen will not work, it has far higher resistance than Liquid Ultra does and probably even more than the 5 milliohm resistors themselves. It wont do anything at all to help you

Hmm.

Thanks for that.

I don't have the steadiest of hands, and having a liquid metal sitting on top of my board makes me a little nervous. I'll have to think about whether or not I want to do this, or instead keep hoping that at some point someone is able to break the digitally signed BIOS.
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Hmm.

Thanks for that.

I don't have the steadiest of hands, and having a liquid metal sitting on top of my board makes me a little nervous. I'll have to think about whether or not I want to do this, or instead keep hoping that at some point someone is able to break the digitally signed BIOS.

You could buy a bottle of acetone to have around. If you spill some off the resistor just wipe everything off as much as you can and then use acetone to clean the card and wipe everything away 100%. Then start over. You can drench the card in acetone if you need to and clean the whole thing and it wont hurt. If you watch der8auer's YouTube video he makes a mess when wiping the CLU off the resistor and you can see the CLU smear all over the card. Then he cleans it all up with a few wipes of an acetone dipped towel. Good as new. The only thing you have to care about is not spilling the CLU onto the GPU while it has power, so basically not putting so much on that it could drip on or whatever once it gets installed back into your tower. If you have a vertical setup on the GPU, like when running on a test bench so the board is flat and the GPU stands up, then you want to use a VERY small amount of CLU, as thick as you normally use when spreading on an IHS of die.
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You could buy a bottle of acetone to have around. If you spill some off the resistor just wipe everything off as much as you can and then use acetone to clean the card and wipe everything away 100%. Then start over. You can drench the card in acetone if you need to and clean the whole thing and it wont hurt. If you watch der8auer's YouTube video he makes a mess when wiping the CLU off the resistor and you can see the CLU smear all over the card. Then he cleans it all up with a few wipes of an acetone dipped towel. Good as new. The only thing you have to care about is not spilling the CLU onto the GPU while it has power, so basically not putting so much on that it could drip on or whatever once it gets installed back into your tower. If you have a vertical setup on the GPU, like when running on a test bench so the board is flat and the GPU stands up, then you want to use a VERY small amount of CLU, as thick as you normally use when spreading on an IHS of die.

That is good to know, thanks!

I've never played with CLU, so I don't know how viscous to expect it to be. It has "liquid" in its name, which is what made me uncomfortable tongue.gif

Is this pretty stable over time, or do the conductive properties change as it dries?
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That is good to know, thanks!

I've never played with CLU, so I don't know how viscous to expect it to be. It has "liquid" in its name, which is what made me uncomfortable tongue.gif

Is this pretty stable over time, or do the conductive properties change as it dries?

I really dont know for sure how the electrical properties change as it dries, but I would imagine there would not be a huge change, maybe 5% tops. The metal will still all be there even if it isnt liquid anymore. Copper doesnt become un-conductive when it is a solid, so I dont see why the electrical properties would change drastically on this. Thermal properties are usually closely linked with electrical properties in metals, and this paste hardly loses any thermal conductivity when it dries.
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
7700K AS Rock Z170 OC Formula Titan X Pascal 2050MHz 64GB DDR4-3200 14-14-14-34-1T 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
950 EVO m.2 OS drive 850 EVO 1TB games drive Intel 730 series 500GB games drive Custom water cooling 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Win 10 Pro x64 AMH A399U E-Element mechanical, black switches, Vortex b... EVGA G3 1kw 
CaseMouseAudioAudio
Lian-Li PC-V1000L Redragon M901 LH Labs Pulse X Infinity DAC Custom built balanced tube amp with SS diamond ... 
Audio
MrSpeakers Alpha Prime 
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Gaming PC
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
7700K AS Rock Z170 OC Formula Titan X Pascal 2050MHz 64GB DDR4-3200 14-14-14-34-1T 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
950 EVO m.2 OS drive 850 EVO 1TB games drive Intel 730 series 500GB games drive Custom water cooling 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Win 10 Pro x64 AMH A399U E-Element mechanical, black switches, Vortex b... EVGA G3 1kw 
CaseMouseAudioAudio
Lian-Li PC-V1000L Redragon M901 LH Labs Pulse X Infinity DAC Custom built balanced tube amp with SS diamond ... 
Audio
MrSpeakers Alpha Prime 
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