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post #51 of 65
this is just a thought as I know very little of chip production, but maybe nvidia is trying to flood both samsung and tsmc with pascal to reduce the pace in which they'll be able to produce polaris/vega ?
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Is this going to be for Volta or after Volta?

If you read the article, it say 14nm will be based on Pascal architecture, which means we will see a refresh next year for pascal



Lesser chance of seeing Volta in 2017.
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Am I the only one who thinks this 14nm part will be the Tegra X2 part for the next gen nintendo console? They might be thinking ahead for the long term production of those chips.
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Am I the only one who thinks this 14nm part will be the Tegra X2 part for the next gen nintendo console? They might be thinking ahead for the long term production of those chips.

You could very much be correct. That Samsung 14nm process is a very good one for mobile SoCs and Nvidia may want to make use of the experience in that area. It also lets Nvidia have production capacity on their mobile end when TSMC is busy with their more expensive chips and with Apple, as well as Gives Nvidia design experience on the node so that they can see whether they want to use it in the future or not for the high power desktop and server GPUs.
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Am I the only one who thinks this 14nm part will be the Tegra X2 part for the next gen nintendo console? They might be thinking ahead for the long term production of those chips.

No its probably some low end parts like you say.
There is no chance they are jumping on 14nm when TSMC 16nm is better (for high end)
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As a consumer, all I care about is, will this help performance?

I don't see it hindering performance so the worst one should expect would be no gains.
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Will this keep costs down?

Most likely. Don't expect Nvidia to pass the savings down to the consumer. It will add to Nvidias gross margins.
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wow, we are barely in this gen and they're already talking about next gen. This is good, i love having a clear roadmap.
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I wonder if this is mainly to increase yield.
Since the 10 series top cards are still hard to come by in many places, AMD need another partner to get more cards out.
And hopefully it will reduce the price of manufacturing, so card prices won't be so high.
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Now you scale that back for thermals & consumption and you end up with a chip that does GTX1080 work, for as little as $450

"As little as $450"? That's still overpriced. And yes, the 1080 is overpriced as well.
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I wonder if this is mainly to increase yield.
Since the 10 series top cards are still hard to come by in many places, AMD need another partner to get more cards out.
And hopefully it will reduce the price of manufacturing, so card prices won't be so high.
Volume, not yield. Yield refers to the proportion of good dies on each wafer of silicon. You'd only switch for better yields if there was a major problem the current fab was unable/unwilling to fix.
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