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No. Think of all the projections: Nvidia Volta/14 nm/HBM 2... what is in common?

This map still looks grand. At a time when TSMC was still touted as the dominant platform, you have to admit something has changed.

Why did you delete your post that I quoted?

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I don't see it hindering performance so the worst one should expect would be no gains.
Most likely. Don't expect Nvidia to pass the savings down to the consumer. It will add to Nvidias gross margins.

Yeah, that's kind of the kicker. I'd like to be optimistic about lower costs = lower prices but I wouldn't be a bit surprised if their pricing scheme didn't change.
post #62 of 65
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Maybe it's a good way to have consequent volume production for the NX chip.
TSMC did a great job with 28 and 16nm and I don't see NV goin to another manufactor regarding high performance chip for the moment.
Those NX consols will sure sell like crazy.
Edited by Serios - 8/16/16 at 7:23am
post #63 of 65
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Honestly, TSMCs 16nm has shown that it's superior to Glofo's 14nm (20nm with finfet) on more than one occasion already so unless Samsung has seen modest improvements in their 14nm design, TSMC is probably the best choice. Financially, it might be another story entirely.
I don't know man I haven't seen anybody on this forum that understands how this tech words to explain these things.
If Nvidia will launch a GPU on 14nm it will have a great starting point in a debate regarding 14nm vs 16nm.
Edited by Serios - 8/16/16 at 7:22am
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Honestly, TSMCs 16nm has shown that it's superior to Glofo's 14nm (20nm with finfet) on more than one occasion already so unless Samsung has seen modest improvements in their 14nm design, TSMC is probably the best choice. Financially, it might be another story entirely.


Where is this proof you speak of?

I can't really believe you came to these conclusions all on your own and decided to state it as fact?

Surely you have some secret documents that have compared the 2 nodes using the same architecture and design?
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Honestly, TSMCs 16nm has shown that it's superior to Glofo's 14nm (20nm with finfet) on more than one occasion already so unless Samsung has seen modest improvements in their 14nm design, TSMC is probably the best choice. Financially, it might be another story entirely.

There is no actual evidence for this statement. On Apple SOC's they are pretty close.

You cant compare a process by using different architectures on each. We already know that NV can clock quite a bit higher on the same node as well.
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