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[Guru3d]AMDs 8 core Zen compared against Intel's 5960X

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Guru3D used the latest leak from AoTS and ran the exact same settings with RX 480 but with i7 5960X and FX 8370. All clocked at 3.2GHz.

Very interesting stuff
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We then down-clocked the AMD and Intel processors towards 3200 MHz. So now we have three processors pretty much in equilibrium frequency range running at (give or take) that 3200 MHz. We now need to match up other stuff:

We gave both systems 16 GB of memory (Core i7 runs in quad-channel though).
We installed a Radeon RX 480 with the latest driver (16.8.1) to match up the leaked setup.
We updated Ashes of Singularity (1.30.21168.0) towards precisely the same build as the leak.
We mimicked the quality modes in DirectX 12, the Zen results leaker merely used the Low, standard, High and Extreme switches.
After each quality settings change we restarted the game

index.php?ct=news&action=file&id=15990

index.php?ct=news&action=file&id=15986

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-zen-engineering-sample-aos-further-analysis.html
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So take the results with a grain of salt as there is little actual final with engineering sample processors, and just wait until the processors reach the market later this year with proper benchmarks and testing, and not just one AOS results set. Also we need to place at least a bit of suspicion to the actual source (not wccftech) but the actual person that injected the results into the AOS database. They could even be faked, albeit the likely-hood of that, we feel, is slim. Still we cannot rule it out of course. Okay, I think I shared enough disclaimers and concerns right ? We ran the Ashes of Singularity benchmark in four stress test modes at 1080P, similar towards the leaked results. There are some oddities in there alright, but have a peek. CPU results first, followed by rendered frames per second:

Oh yeah, real interesting.
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There's a lot of interest in Zen, 23 pages a day in This Thread from a leak posted at the same site.
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Oh yeah, real interesting.

Try a little harder please. The leak may actually be legit. You would be here claiming it to be 100% real if it was a beast. But it isnt so you try all you can to call it fake.

Guru3D replicated the exact same settings on existing CPUs to make a real comparison. Because there is a chance its actually legit
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Would be nice to see other games posted to.
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Stop being disingenuous.

The disclaimer means it's not reliable or verified; I don't give damn what the results are. It's misleading to call it 'interesting' when it's utterly unreliable information. You completely omit the disclaimer from your original post, which leads a reader to assume the information is somehow reliable. That's called being misleading.

It might end up to be entirely accurate information in the end, but not acknowledging the caveats of those doing the testing in the first place gives a misleading impression.

Well, none of this is new.
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it's unlikely of amd to promise sth that has high fps per watt and then give us sth that has high watt per fps instead, so this most likely is not a representation of the final product.
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Try a little harder please. The leak may actually be legit. You would be here claiming it to be 100% real if it was a beast. But it isnt so you try all you can to call it fake.

Guru3D replicated the exact same settings on existing CPUs to make a real comparison. Because there is a chance its actually legit

You should make 6 more threads on this. Your first one wasn't enough i guess.
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Soo, would an 8370 at say, 1.5ghz higher clock walk right past 8c Zen?
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For a moment I thought they actually obtained one of these ES samples for testing. But even Guru3d admits this this is all sketchy. I'm just going to wait and see when the chip actually comes out. No point in developing expectations on leaks that have equal chances being right as they do being wrong.
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