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Lol that chart looks like they just averaged both the FX and the i7, put it at exactly 40% above the FX and released it as the most legit proof ever.

The Zen data is simply the Average CPU frame rate from the previously leaked/posted Zen benchmarks, there is no averaging or new data for Zen here.
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Wasn't the Zen sample on the previous 'leaks' clocked at 2.8GHz base though?

 

...I hope you see where I'm coming from. There is a crap ton of inconsistencies across the board.

   
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Wasn't the Zen sample on the previous 'leaks' clocked at 2.8GHz base though?

...I hope you see where I'm coming from. There is a crap ton of inconsistencies across the board.

This.
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No one can see the numbers on that picture you linked. But I agree. If I remember correctly MSAA was 4x on the Zen benchmark and here it is only 1x.
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No one can see the numbers on that picture you linked. But I agree. If I remember correctly MSAA was 4x on the Zen benchmark and here it is only 1x.

Nvm. The preset was wrong...

Here is apple to apple comparison...

http://www.ashesofthesingularity.com/metaverse#/personas/b02c74ea-e3d0-479f-9a11-0b0be0b732c7/match-details/b37b2ee0-824c-4f7a-ac42-a94228368d82
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post #26 of 135
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Someone also said AoTS is only capable of using 6 cores? That would basically mean that the 5960X should only be 50% faster than the 4770K at the same clockspeeds.

Which if true, sounds strange because the 5960X here is getting over twice the performance of a 4790K (going by scores linked on the other thread).

Jup. I will post benches of my Sandy Bridge 8C/16T Xeon 2,6 / 3,3 turbo. I just need to update to Win 10.
In Windows 7 DX11 AOTS scores average 42,1FPS on Radeon RX 480 and 16GB RAM 1600mhz. On default settings.
Edited by Pro3ootector - 8/12/16 at 12:06pm
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What people expecting ?! Everything from AMD get overhyped before it is release (just look at fury or polaris both were below expectations)

Zen should be a decent improvement over piledriver but don't expect it to bring any miracles
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The Zen data is simply the Average CPU frame rate from the previously leaked/posted Zen benchmarks, there is no averaging or new data for Zen here.
Exactly as I said REPOST!
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Originally Posted by Artikbot View Post

Wasn't the Zen sample on the previous 'leaks' clocked at 2.8GHz base though?

...I hope you see where I'm coming from. There is a crap ton of inconsistencies across the board.

This.

I assume the Zen sample was able to hold its "turbo" speed of 3.2 GHz, but maybe it couldn't? Still, it doesn't look likely we will see a Zen with Haswell level single threaded performance.

A "crap ton" of inconsistencies? Are there any other than whether or not it was run at the turbo clock speed?
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This benchmark is interesting, with a 5960X at 3.2 GHz it lets us compare to the possibly fake leaked Zen ES benchmarks. Without this data point those leaked benchmarks weren't very informative and that older thread was pretty useless. We know AoTS is well threaded, but not perfectly, so comparing to quad core CPUs can hide bad single threaded performance with more threads but I didn't know how much.

We do not want to hype/plan based on only multi-threaded performance, we have been there before.

Both 5960X and Zen are 8-core. Both should have a penalty for poor multi thread support with AoTS if that was true.

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Wasn't the Zen sample on the previous 'leaks' clocked at 2.8GHz base though?

...I hope you see where I'm coming from. There is a crap ton of inconsistencies across the board.

Base was 2.8GHz but turbo boost is 3.2GHz.
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