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The result Guru3D found is roughly 30-35% over the FX-8370. Both clocked the same.
So AMDs 40% IPC gain over Excevator may not be far fetched

Yea.....
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So how come in the WCCFT article about this leak, the stock 8350 in it was scoring about the same if not worse than this 8370 at 3.2ghz....... ???
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The result Guru3D found is roughly 30-35% over the FX-8370. Both clocked the same.
So AMDs 40% IPC gain over Excevator may not be far fetched

Wait wouldn't the actual frequency of the Zen es be 2.8ghz rather than 3.2ghz since all cores would be in use? Ifaik it wouldn't be boosting to 3.2 which kinda renders the comparisons moot.
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What are you talking about? There is no simulation being done here.

Did you comment on the wrong post?

Did you comment on the wrong post?
post #55 of 135
So now we're getting this for 3 or 4 quarters however long it takes to actually launch? Time to not read the news for six months.
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So how much IPC gain is it with Excevator over Vishera?
10%?

So we are looking at 20-30% over Excevator if these leaks are true or what?
post #57 of 135
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So how much IPC gain is it with Excevator over Vishera?
10%?

At least.

It's hard to compare as Carrizo based parts are the only ones using Excavator cores. Comparison bench are very hit or miss, depending on app, but once you trim the ones obviously limited by something other than the cores proper, 10% is a reasonable, if rather conservative, estimate for the IPC advantage of Excavator over Vishera.
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So we are looking at 20-30% over Excevator if these leaks are true or what?

If this leaks is accurate, if the Zen ES is actually running at 3.2GHz on all cores, if the benchmark is scheduling threads correctly, if the CPU benchmark is completely CPU limited, but only if the game can't really leverage more than eight threads, and if AotS' CPU bench is roughly representative of overall CPU performance, then yes.
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Wait wouldn't the actual frequency of the Zen es be 2.8ghz rather than 3.2ghz since all cores would be in use? Ifaik it wouldn't be boosting to 3.2 which kinda renders the comparisons moot.

Depends on if the turbo was working and how it's supposed to work.
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So how much IPC gain is it with Excevator over Vishera?
10%?

So we are looking at 20-30% over Excevator if these leaks are true or what?

The official figure (by AMD) is 15.5% on average, and that is pretty accurate. However Excavator designs have half the L2 cache available of any previous Bulldozer design (1MB vs. 2MB), which can cause a significant performance impact in some scenarios. For example in Bullet physics engine (used in various games, benchmarks and rendering software) Excavator is 10% slower than Steamroller.
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So it cant even compete with a few years old intel lineup? What is the exact point of zen then?
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bye bye zen if those numbers are true lol
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