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@Mods this thread should be closed. It's not news and has absolutely no substance whatsoever. Just an unfounded claim that a vaporous future GPU should be a monster....Duh.

 

Wonder where the author on Motley Fool got the title from :rolleyes:. Just maybe the same titled OCN thread about Pascal. Have some pun "thread" of dignity or do I ask too much or are ad clicks the deciding factor?

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So what you're saying is.. Titan XP can manage as much FPS in every game on max settings as the best CPU's can put out?

That's be awesome but is unfortunately not true. If it was true, gogo supersample everything!

Supersampling is always the answer. If I can hold 60fps at max I will use SSAA until I can't. I run 8x SSAA on Quake Live because why not. Oh and the clarity is amazing.
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This article has nothing to back up the claims, no real info on architecture changes. I could say the same thing and kind of have the same value as these statements, none.
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still don't have a full GP right?
so is a full GV actually happening?
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still don't have a full GP right?
so is a full GV actually happening?

 

Same as the 1080 Ti question. If AMD kills it with Vega it will become exponentially more likely that we see all the stops pulled out for Volta.

     
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still don't have a full GP right?
so is a full GV actually happening?
They are telling there could bet 102 104 and 110 models
if this is true.
Probably 102 and 104 will be for consumer since they are crippled on compute.
and 110 for Tesla, unlike GM200 and GK110 which were avaialble to consumers

but if AMD releases Vega GPU that competes and/beat GTX Titan X (Pascal) they could release the full GPU Die even if it doesnt have all double precision units
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I'm beginning to (realize through introspection) feel like experiencing the first signs of denial that AMD isn't competitive. Let it be wrong. #prayforvega, as I saw on someone's signature.
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I'm beginning to (realize through introspection) feel like experiencing the first signs of denial that AMD isn't competitive. Let it be wrong. #prayforvega, as I saw on someone's signature.
They've been declining in most ways for a long time. The stopped offering the kind of variety needed a while ago. They lagged on mid-node refreshes. Drivers have remained mostly good, but software and features have been noncompetitive.

They've been competing very well in the die-size : performance area, often beating NV in how much performance they could pack into every square millimeter. You always knew they could release a much bigger flagship and take the crown, if they wanted. The problem is, NV can't allow that at all. They'd compete fiercely to take back the crown and they'd probably get it; it'd cost both of them a lot of money, and only consumers would earn. AMD didn't have that kind of money to throw away for nothing.

This has been the theme for I don't know how many years. Every time AMD gets going, they seem to run out of money and suffer a major setback. Tahiti and Bulldozer launching around the same time, for instance. Hawaii got pushed further and further away, and didn't hit as hard as it should have had it been released on time. The horrible reference cooler and temperature throttling. Fiji drivers took too long, and was clearly meant for Mantle, which flopped early. Vulkan will rise from the ashes and help Vega, but Volta will probably be launched just in time to reap all the benefits of the struggle AMD has had over the last few years trying to take advantage of new technologies.

Same old tragic story. That is, until now. Polaris is legitimately weak. 232² on the presumably superior 14nm process (NV wouldn't switch to an inferior node,) while the 1060 is 200mm² and performs 5-10% better.

It gives me the impression that AMD just hasn't been able to improve upon GCN all that much. If that's really the case, they're in a lot of trouble. They might be in the same kind of trouble they're in against Intel, with no money to catch up on design.

It's possible that GF/Samsung can achieve bigger dies with better yields, while TSMC will only offer better performance for smaller dies. If that's the case, things might still be equal between the two brands and the nodes might be the only difference. That's just wishful thinking, though.
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The only thing monstrous from Nvidia are the prices... if the prices were cheap, the performance jumps would probably be less of a big deal, but consumers are stupid... and automatically equate a higher price in direct correlation with performance.

If only their exponential increases in price represented equally exponential increases in performance. But we all know that isn't true. As of now, a 30% increase costs more than double. Justify that in any way you like.
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I wonder how this is going to play out. Titan XP is already bottlenecked at 1080p by the highest end CPUs, and even some at 1440p. And TXP is close to pushing a 4K 60Hz monitor, so we need 4K 120/144Hz monitors to really take advantage of big Volta?

Err, I think that's backwards. At 120/144Hz, the CPU is often the bottleneck, not the GPU. Check out GPU utilization vs CPU utilization at 120/144 FPS. From my testing (and it passes the sanity check), the CPU is the bottleneck as you go past 60.

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My wallet is not updating its product profile every 6 months. This is straight out becoming a cash grab and money game. This will get em soon enough. Keep on pushing it Nvidia and see what eventually happens.

So....what if NVIDIA released a new flagship GPU every month? Would that be so bad? I don't follow your logic at all.

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