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With as much as I love this monitor, I'm finding that if I reduce the blue level AT ALL (and it does need to be reduced a bit), then the brown smog-like look on the top-left corner gets accentuated to a level that's distracting and annoying. So, I'm keeping two tabs open: one for a Google Search for the ASUS PG248Q, and another for a PCPartPicker search for that monitor. I have until September 8th to return my monitor to B&H, so I am hoping that stores like Amazon.com or Newegg start selling the ASUS PG248Q so that I can get a better monitor. The reason I want it is, I've seen a few videos of professional reviews of that monitor and I would say it's a better monitor hands down. Well, except for the fact that it uses a power brick, but what're ya gonna do? It seems like all the competitors to the 24" Acer Predator XB1 use a power brick for some reason. heh

 

I know I could just exchange my XB241H for another, but @Malinkadink said that he had 3 different XB241H's and they all had this problem.

 

I'm also sick and tired of the fact that the OSD indicator of the current signal type being used (DP or HDMI) is dead-center. I can't even find the right words to express just how stupid and annoying that is. I don't understand why acer didn't just put it in the corner! Then it would be out of the way!


Edited by TwoCables - 8/17/16 at 12:46am
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External power supplies for monitors is actually helpful in that it wont influence the uniformity of the LCD panel with its added heat so if it has a brick i dont mind so much.

I ended up giving up on the XB241Hs and got an XB240H on clearance for $230. Unforunately i ended up cracking the LCD panel when i went to take it apart to remove the matte coating. Ended up buying a VG248QE for $130 to take its panel and put it in the XB240H after successfully removing the matte coating. So i pretty much ended up paying $360 for the monitor same as the XB241H rolleyes.gif but at least i have a glossy gsync monitor for now.

I'm really aching to move up from 1080p 24", i've toyed with a few 27" 1440p monitors and its a huge difference, and have also had 32" 4k. The 32" 4k was by far the most immersive, but the only thing is 60hz sucks. I really really really want 4k 40" 120hz, and i dont think i'll need to wait much longer, 2017 should bring displays like that into the limelight
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External power supplies for monitors is actually helpful in that it wont influence the uniformity of the LCD panel with its added heat so if it has a brick i dont mind so much.

I ended up giving up on the XB241Hs and got an XB240H on clearance for $230. Unforunately i ended up cracking the LCD panel when i went to take it apart to remove the matte coating. Ended up buying a VG248QE for $130 to take its panel and put it in the XB240H after successfully removing the matte coating. So i pretty much ended up paying $360 for the monitor same as the XB241H rolleyes.gif but at least i have a glossy gsync monitor for now.

I'm really aching to move up from 1080p 24", i've toyed with a few 27" 1440p monitors and its a huge difference, and have also had 32" 4k. The 32" 4k was by far the most immersive, but the only thing is 60hz sucks. I really really really want 4k 40" 120hz, and i dont think i'll need to wait much longer, 2017 should bring displays like that into the limelight

 

OMG, so that's why the XB241H's uniformity sucks. I mean, it's so obvious: the lack of uniformity matches the location of the built-in power supply. Well dammit, that does it: I'm returning it and getting something that uses a power brick. I hope that it can be the PG248Q, but I fear that it might end up being the AOC G2460PG (I heard that the menu system on it is worse than the XB241H's lol). I wouldn't mind that pretty looking bezel though.

 

Actually, do you happen to have any 24" 144Hz+ G-Sync 1080p recommendations that won't cost much more than let's say, I dunno, $600 or $650? The lower the better, always, but still, I think if I were to return the XB241H, then at this point I would probably be able to spend that much and still be able to eat. lol

 

I absolutely don't want a 27" 1080p monitor, and I don't want a native resolution of 1440p because I don't want my gaming performance to suffer. I also need to be able to fit the monitor into a space that's 18"x25". It was hard enough to move the 24" Acer Predator XB1 into position because the stand itself is just a hair over 17" tall. So, lifting the monitor by the stand requires some finesse. I also don't want to have swivel problems, so I'd say I'm limited to 17"x24".


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OMG, so that's why the XB241H's uniformity sucks. I mean, it's so obvious: the lack of uniformity matches the location of the built-in power supply. Well dammit, that does it: I'm returning it and getting something that uses a power brick. I hope that it can be the PG248Q, but I fear that it might end up being the AOC G2460PG (I heard that the menu system on it is worse than the XB241H's lol). I wouldn't mind that pretty looking bezel though.

Actually, do you happen to have any 24" 144Hz+ G-Sync 1080p recommendations that won't cost much more than let's say, I dunno, $600 or $650? The lower the better, always, but still, I think if I were to return the XB241H, then at this point I would probably be able to spend that much and still be able to eat. lol

I absolutely don't want a 27" 1080p monitor, and I don't want a native resolution of 1440p because I don't want my gaming performance to suffer. I also need to be able to fit the monitor into a space that's 18"x25". It was hard enough to move the 24" Acer Predator XB1 into position because the stand itself is just a hair over 17" tall. So, lifting the monitor by the stand requires some finesse. I also don't want to have swivel problems, so I'd say I'm limited to 17"x24".

Well not exactly, there are plenty of monitors with internal power supplies and they're fine if they're well constructed and dont have the power supply sitting too close to the LCD. Also with these Gsync monitors the Gsync chip produces a considerable amount of heat. I know with my monitor after a couple hours if i put my hand over the vents in the back its unusually hot, and the reason is Gsync. Without Gsync it would be slightly warm.

If you have a budget as high as $600 then why not get a Dell S2716DG? Its considerably better than the XB241H, unless you dont want or have room for a 27". And if you dont care about Gsync so much then the MG279Q is a good buy.
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Well not exactly, there are plenty of monitors with internal power supplies and they're fine if they're well constructed and dont have the power supply sitting too close to the LCD. Also with these Gsync monitors the Gsync chip produces a considerable amount of heat. I know with my monitor after a couple hours if i put my hand over the vents in the back its unusually hot, and the reason is Gsync. Without Gsync it would be slightly warm.

If you have a budget as high as $600 then why not get a Dell S2716DG? Its considerably better than the XB241H, unless you dont want or have room for a 27". And if you dont care about Gsync so much then the MG279Q is a good buy.

 

The S2716DG would be nice, but I am worried that I might not have the kind of system that would be able to game at 1440p and still be able to give me the kind of performance I want without sacrificing any eye-candy. I'm already seeing a noticeable drop at 1080p from 1680 x 1050. It's not huge, but going from 1080p to 1440p - I don't know. However, I would definitely like to have a monitor that I can live with because I spend all of my time at my computer. I live here. :/

 

Thank you for reminding me about the S2716DG. I have a maximum space allowance of about 17.5" and 24.5" and this one comes in at 16.39" minimum and 24.11" wide. Nice and it's only $519.99 right now from Adorama and I like Adorama.

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The AOC G2460PG served me very well when I had it. I'd take an awful OSD menu if the display itself has no flaws. People rag on the AOC for that, honestly, how often are you going to fiddle with the OSD. Here are some photos I took of white and black screens when I had mine. Pardon the slight over exposure on the white screens.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1585733/benq-xl2430t-vs-aoc-g2460pg-24-vs-acer-xb240h-abpr

All of the 24" TN G-sync monitors are very similar image quality wise. Only a matter of finding a screen that is acceptable to you.
Edited by jlp0209 - 8/17/16 at 8:10am
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How bad is the AOC G2460PG's OSD menu? I'd be needing to use it every day to adjust the brightness because I have a very strong preference to adjust the brightness for different things like Firefox usage, YouTube, DVDs, games, and that couple of hours before going to sleep (very dim with ULMB mode).

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The S2716DG would be nice, but I am worried that I might not have the kind of system that would be able to game at 1440p and still be able to give me the kind of performance I want without sacrificing any eye-candy. I'm already seeing a noticeable drop at 1080p from 1680 x 1050. It's not huge, but going from 1080p to 1440p - I don't know. However, I would definitely like to have a monitor that I can live with because I spend all of my time at my computer. I live here. :/

Thank you for reminding me about the S2716DG. I have a maximum space allowance of about 17.5" and 24.5" and this one comes in at 16.39" minimum and 24.11" wide. Nice and it's only $519.99 right now from Adorama and I like Adorama.
You're not going to reach 144 fps in a lot of games even at 1080p,sorry. I'd honestly would stay away from 1080p 144 hz until they start selling something that is not TN. I read somewhere that Samsung is going to sell a 1080p VA 144 hz monitor soon. I don't know if that's true but i'd get a 1080 60 hz IPS screen and be done with it. It's still an upgrade from 1050p.
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You're not going to reach 144 fps in a lot of games even at 1080p,sorry. I'd honestly would stay away from 1080p 144 hz until they start selling something that is not TN. I read somewhere that Samsung is going to sell a 1080p VA 144 hz monitor soon. I don't know if that's true but i'd get a 1080 60 hz IPS screen and be done with it. It's still an upgrade from 1050p.

 

I'm not getting a 60 Hz monitor in Q3 of 2016, not after experiencing 144 Hz and G-SYNC these past few days. Just, no. Hell no. I'm not going back to 60 Hz. Ever. Have you experienced anything above 60Hz yet? Even 120Hz destroys it. It is truly butter-smooth.


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How bad is the AOC G2460PG's OSD menu? I'd be needing to use it every day to adjust the brightness because I have a very strong preference to adjust the brightness for different things like Firefox usage, YouTube, DVDs, games, and that couple of hours before going to sleep (very dim with ULMB mode).

Here is a thorough review of the AOC with video showing the OSD menu:

https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/aoc-g2460pg/

It isn't that bad. I'd describe it as not intuitive, if that makes sense. I've seen enough bad monitors to appreciate a gem when I get one. I would never avoid buying a monitor simply because I'd need to press 1 or 2 more buttons within the OSD menu.
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