Originally Posted by Darkpriest667
In the Enthusiast community it might work once in a while (but rarely) In the mainstream community no one is holding their breath and waiting for AMD. If they want a 1080/1070 as soon as they have the funds its purchased.
I hate to say I agree with @guttheslayer
on anything but he's right. AMD needs to be bought out by a very large company with fabs (Samsung we're looking at you) to be able to compete with Nvidia or Intel. I've been saying this for over 3 years now. IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
If you folks don't understand what a faux competitor is I can't help you, but basically it is when a near monopoly keeps a competitor alive only to keep from being regulated or broken up. That's exactly what Nvidia and Intel are doing right now.
We already have prices like that now. If AMD was a real competitor we'd have 600 dollar performance crown cards not 1200. We'd have Enthusiast CPUs for 800 not 1600.
The problem with anyone buying AMD GPU arm at the moment is, as someone else has said, it's not a growing industry.
Ever since AMD and Intel started putting integrated solutions on their CPU's the financial reasons to buy a discrete videocard company has been going down the tube.
Basically Nvidia is in an ideal scenario to create profit and although it generates 200-250million in net profit, more than half of that comes from their professional solutions(not revenue but profit).
The consumer driven discrete market is more there to create the cashflow so Nvidia can spend more on R and D.
And this is what makes it difficult for anyone to buy AMD. The consumer market is a shrinking market and thus, the ability to get a return on investment is near impossible. This is because you have to throw a couple billions on R and D for AMD to catch up to Nvidia, hundreds of million on marketing, hundreds of million more beefing up their staff and support on top of the buying cost of AMD graphic division.
Right now, AMD Pseudo advantage is their directx 12 support, but Nvidia has closed that gap mostly when you normalize the die size and transistor count. As far as Pascal vs polaris goes as an architecture, you basically have the same performance in directx 12, but this big gap in directx 11. With Nvidia holding their cards back compared to AMD as far as clocks go, Nvidia's tech advantage long with their brand strength make it a very AMD vs Intel situation. Smaller scale, but much smaller rewards as well. This story is repeated with Intel but adding another zero do those costs.
Add in the Discrete GPU industry might be only good for 5 more years and you just don't want to do it. The chance of failure is higher than the chance of success. Because of AMD competitors, no one sniffed at buying AMD, even when their market capitalization was less than 2 billion dollars. You basically spend 3 billion dollars on buying the company, absorb 2.5 billion on debt and have to spend 10 billion more on R and D, and billions on marketing, just to have a chance to compete with Nvidia and Intel.