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I'm not sure I buy that there is a DPC problem with nvidia drivers... Hve you seen the stuff people are posting about it? Do people even know what DPC is?!

Here's a video from a person I trust:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aTadHMK3ELs
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Finally i sold my titan x pascal and i got a msi armor 1080 gtx. I changed my motherboard for a MSI Gaming 5 Z97 with 32gb ddr3 at 2400mhz from corsair. And i bought 2 kingston SSD instead of using HDD drives.
With all of this i still have lower fps in games like witcher3 because of the 1080 vs titan xp. BUT I DONT have anymore Stutters or framedrop, its seem framedrop was a ddr3 1600mhz problem, and stuttering was a HDD Wd black problem and with SSD no more stuttering. In the last 10 years i was not able to play Elder scrolls iv Oblivion with no stuttering at MAXimum graphics, the problem of stuttering disappeared at 100% when game is installed in SSD. I made several tests before posting. Believe it or not HDD can cause stuttering in some games, in open world games like oblivion and witcher, but the stuttering can be 100% fixed if you use a SSD drive instead.

Its funny enough, i enjoy more my games in stability with my new system with the 1080 gtx than my old system with titanxp LoL, framerate are more stable and with vsync off, tearing are very very small , with my old system i could not live with it even with the titanx, probably stuttering and framedrop got my tearing problem worst.

Im happy now, im waiting to buy a Titan Volta it could be long wink.gif

Glad your happy and got all your problems fixed thumb.gif
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I'm not sure I buy that there is a DPC problem with nvidia drivers... Hve you seen the stuff people are posting about it? Do people even know what DPC is?!

Here's a video from a person I trust:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aTadHMK3ELs

That person you trust has latency problems to.

You see him get it with alt-tabbing, running borderless fixes that huge spike.
Then he says (but not even shows) that gaming for an hour was ok with no more big spikes yet when he is saying that (and not even playing a game yet) you see his interrupt go over 400us within 2minutes... wonder how it looked like after that 1 hour of gaming, offcourse he didnt show that......

Most if not all people with an Nividia card are affected.
Just some people dont notice it.

I dont notice it either but my Nvidia driver is still the biggest cause of latency by far.

People love to play CSGO on stupid high frame rates, well beyond there monitor can handle, why ? Because it reduces latency they say.
I find it wierd that people so called noticed reduced latency when upping frames from 144 to say 200 but they dont notice the added latency of Nvidia drivers wich are probaly higher then the reduced latency you get from upping FPS.

Yes, Nvidia driver latency is real.
Most people just dont notice it.

Dont worry though, even if Nvidia will ever get it fixed we then have the tcpip.sys driver to screw us over wink.gif

For reference AMD drivers have such low latency that Latencymon cant even detect it most of the times.
Yes i own a PC with a Nvidia card (2 even) and 1 with an AMD card.
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Faith,
Thank you for the informative post. I'm having trouble quoting on my phone.

I had absolutely insane problems with 290X in crossfire. My audio would crackle and and you can hear it stretching lol. I was forced to run in single card mode with games like Skyrim and Birderlands due to such issues. So it has been more than a year but my AMD Latencymon results were through the roof. Hell the SLI set would outright freeze in Borderlands 2 Menu. Sound would continue but video is frozen (My own video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DRrKPgfhsF4)
I have not had such problems since switching to 2X 980 Ti. I guess I'll have to run my own tests in a few different games and see what I come up with. If you have any particular test scenarios that are personal favorite, please let me know.

Where nvidia screws me up is PhysX. The drivers magically select "CPU" for PhysX acceleration, and FPS drops from 120 to 16 right in the middle of a tough fight. It's almost like Jack works at nvidia...
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Faith,
Thank you for the informative post. I'm having trouble quoting on my phone.

I had absolutely insane problems with 290X in crossfire. My audio would crackle and and you can hear it stretching lol. I was forced to run in single card mode with games like Skyrim and Birderlands due to such issues. So it has been more than a year but my AMD Latencymon results were through the roof. Hell the SLI set would outright freeze in Borderlands 2 Menu. Sound would continue but video is frozen (My own video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DRrKPgfhsF4)
I have not had such problems since switching to 2X 980 Ti. I guess I'll have to run my own tests in a few different games and see what I come up with. If you have any particular test scenarios that are personal favorite, please let me know.

Where nvidia screws me up is PhysX. The drivers magically select "CPU" for PhysX acceleration, and FPS drops from 120 to 16 right in the middle of a tough fight. It's almost like Jack works at nvidia...

I reckon your problem with AMD must have been something else, AMD is really not know to cause latency in there drivers at all.
Not saying that CF is perfect though.

If you google you can find latency isseu's with Nvidia dating back for years (same goes for tcpip.sys driver)
Many people dont notice it though, i dont notice an increase of 200us either.

The mega huge spikes seems to be mostly fixed with the hotfix driver they have put out.
My Nvidia drivers seem to peek up to about 150us max now after a bit of tweaking, not perfect but i'm not going to tell a difference if its lower.
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