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The data collection will be obscene. Keylogger, all files uploaded to the cloud and checked for personal data, always on webcam + mic. You'll be getting adds for things only your subconscious is thinking about.
That's what came to my mind as well. At least we'll have a choice to who we whore out our info to, for free... Or I mean, after we pay them. I swear, there'll be a time where we work 12 hours day and an "OS" chooses how to spend our "earnings" for us, automatically... Sounds like a synopsis to a bad sci-fi flick reality.
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Buying out google? rolleyes.gif

Oh yeah sure. Buying out Google.

No... buying out the OS division. It will of course be a separate entity and one that cannot hold Google itself responsible.

Which also means it will be able to be sold.
     
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It's not every day we get a brand new from-the-ground-up operating system from a major industry leader. Seems it is being designed for everything from IoT to full sized desktops. If it succeeds it will be VERY interesting indeed.
They have an opportunity to make it as close to perfect as can be: Fast/lightweight/secure/adaptable/easy-to-use/etc
It's true that Win/Linux/Mac/Everything else all include a ton of old legacy code that almost nobody uses anymore, and that is mostly just bloat and/or full of security holes. But the manufacturers can't get rid of it because it's either too integral to the whole system, or because it's required for 'backwards compatibility".
Fuschia will have nothing like that at all, at least not for many years.

That's why vista/7 started. There is also a ton of undocumented code. Another reason game designers should every so often start from scratch. Vulcan (ogl "next") did that, too much undocumented code and you didn't know what was doing what. A lot of Linux desktops have done that.

This is why you should always document your code. Unfortunately it's not so easy, deadlines and patches. Blah blah, it sucks. I've seen so much undocumented code in Linux, so much. Good thing use flags exist. So you can disable all the crap in Linux. Time consuming but meh.
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Good luck reinventing the wheel (a very complex wheel that takes decades to make).

There's already a similar OS in the works. It's called Remix OS and please, we don't need 200 different "Android remixes". Look at the damage it has done to Linux. I like choices, but we need one universal motherload operating system for the Android PC market so that hardware vendors can focus specifically on that distro and we don't end up with the paradox of choice dilemma!
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It's time to put Android to rest. rest in pepperoni repetitive OS.
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There's already a similar OS in the works. It's called Remix OS and please, we don't need 200 different "Android remixes". Look at the damage it has done to Linux. I like choices, but we need one universal motherload operating system for the Android PC market so that hardware vendors can focus specifically on that distro and we don't end up with the paradox of choice dilemma!

It's not a distro. It's not even Linux.
It'r a brand new kernel from the ground up.
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If they don't care about compatibility with existing systems, they should go one step further and come up with a new desktop CPU architecture that doesn't have all the legacy x86 cruft. It would be interesting to see something brand-new that's 64-bit and doesn't have old mostly-unused legacy support for features like 16-bit real mode, virtual 8088 mode, BIOS, memory segmentation, old and unused instruction sets, etc.
That would be something like ARM or PowerPC. They are both much more modern than x86

Exactly my thoughts, This I couldn't agree more.

This might be a little off topic bit I've read somewhere the Mill architecture can do >10x better IPC than the best x86-64 CPU. Couldn't read much of that, when is it gonna take over ?
x86-64 is already garbage in front of even Power8 when it comes to 64/128 bit Integer/float processing compared to single and half precision. It would be hell of significant improvements in financial and high end multimedia processing.
We have compiler support, we have CPUs and yes revolution takes a lot of work at first but with the help of Google, it is definitely possible to overcome the pain in the ass the x86-64 barrier.

Look at the pathetic ratio of 64 bit to 32 bit performance of Intel x86-64, and don't forget to see the 64 bit division. The problem here is not living with the Intel/AMD's x86-64, the problem is how come the IBM does much better in handling the real double precision processing and have the so much parity between half/single/double precision ?




Source: http://nicolas.limare.net/pro/notes/2014/12/12_arit_speed/

I am all in for supporting anything new OS.
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The data collection will be obscene. Keylogger, all files uploaded to the cloud and checked for personal data, always on webcam + mic. You'll be getting adds for things only your subconscious is thinking about.

Wonder if it will come bundled with a download from dwnld.cm and quietly install itself the way chrome used to? rolleyes.gif
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http://www.wired.com/2016/05/googles-making-chips-now-time-intel-freak/

 

Most probably runs hand-in-hand with this.

 

And I assume that if Google transitions this to mobile we'll see them deny rights to OEMs and carriers as far as OS updates go now that they've seen the issues with doing that in Android.

 

But hey this kind of situation reminds me of this:

 

 

Anyways my guess is that Google will use this kernel for more internal stuff such as servers or AI networks and then slowly transition this over to mainstream (mobile first probably).


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