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If the os will be made with users interest in mind and fair business practice, for example give users as many choices as possible, then I wish upon Google all success.

Who am I kidding though...Its Google.
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If they don't care about compatibility with existing systems, they should go one step further and come up with a new desktop CPU architecture that doesn't have all the legacy x86 cruft. It would be interesting to see something brand-new that's 64-bit and doesn't have old mostly-unused legacy support for features like 16-bit real mode, virtual 8088 mode, BIOS, memory segmentation, old and unused instruction sets, etc.
That would be something like ARM or PowerPC. They are both much more modern than x86

Exactly my thoughts, This I couldn't agree more.

This might be a little off topic bit I've read somewhere the Mill architecture can do >10x better IPC than the best x86-64 CPU. Couldn't read much of that, when is it gonna take over ?
x86-64 is already garbage in front of even Power8 when it comes to 64/128 bit Integer/float processing compared to single and half precision. It would be hell of significant improvements in financial and high end multimedia processing.
We have compiler support, we have CPUs and yes revolution takes a lot of work at first but with the help of Google, it is definitely possible to overcome the pain in the ass the x86-64 barrier.

Look at the pathetic ratio of 64 bit to 32 bit performance of Intel x86-64, and don't forget to see the 64 bit division. The problem here is not living with the Intel/AMD's x86-64, the problem is how come the IBM does much better in handling the real double precision processing and have the so much parity between half/single/double precision ?




Source: http://nicolas.limare.net/pro/notes/2014/12/12_arit_speed/

I am all in for supporting anything new OS.
While I love to see technological advancements, I've always wondered that why did apple switch away from power pc if it's so superior?

As far as I remember intel cpu's just kicked PPC butt when changed over. Some really vague benchmarks but nonetheless.
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Good luck reinventing the wheel (a very complex wheel that takes decades to make).

I dunno, with as many people as they have, and a lot of code already written that will undoubtedly be reusable in the new OS, it might not be as big of a job as it seemed a while back. (but still a big job tongue.gif, just maybe not decades to make it)

edit: also maybe this isn't considered re-inventing the wheel, but more like inventing the thing that replaces the wheel, inventing the anti-gravity pad.
Edited by spinFX - 8/15/16 at 6:36pm
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There is a solid firm reason that MS is heavily backwards compatible with several areas of the operating system.

It's exactly what has kept them moving forward from each new OS release and upgrade, update, etc.

There is a reason the underlying basic blocks of the system haven't changed. IE; drive designation and file system.
    
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iOS basically started with nothing and built one of the most used consumer operating systems ever. The question is whether or not Google can offer a compelling product and ecosystem that requires its use.

Thinking about how Microsoft went about things, really there's no reason Google can't just go and shove billions of dollars into a new closed ecosystem just to build a new brand (e.g. Xbox), so there is precedent to say that they could go ahead and make this into just about anything they want.

If Google can just take the top dozen or so things that people use computers for and develop competent first party options for those things (largely what Apple seems to do), then the idea might not be too far fetched.
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I can see it being a mobile operating system and never reaching the desktop,and I think it would also be hardware specific.

I certainly don't expect anything more than that.
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There's already a similar OS in the works. It's called Remix OS...[/B] dilemma!
I've been screwing around with remix a bit lately on a spare machine. I run it off a USB3 stick. It's plenty snappy, even on that. But I've had a devil of a time getting it to install properly on a small ssd I have. It may be user error, to be honest. I get bored screwing with it and move on to something else. It does have potential, I just have to find a task for it.
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Oh yeah sure. Buying out Google.

No... buying out the OS division. It will of course be a separate entity and one that cannot hold Google itself responsible.

Which also means it will be able to be sold.

So google will make a separate company to develop a brand new OS then let microsoft buy it out?

I just can't see it.
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So google will make a separate company to develop a brand new OS then let microsoft buy it out?

I just can't see it.

Google did make a separate company for their multiple different smaller companies. It's called Alpabet Inc. and is the parent company for Google.
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Does anyone here understand how Google brings in revenue? Hint: ads, ads, and more ads. You think Windows 10 is bad, a full fledged Google OS will be a nightmare.
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