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Sounds like another fail... Don't want to hate but what can they offer different than MS/Apple/Linux ?
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Sounds like another fail... Don't want to hate but what can they offer different than MS/Apple/Linux ?

Literally everything.
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Sounds like another fail... Don't want to hate but what can they offer different than MS/Apple/Linux ?

choices are always good, maybe MS will finally clean up their act when a new player enters the market
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What good of a choice is a os if it tears at privacy choices? Most likely this is what their new os will do. If we did not have Linux it would matter.
But we have Linux so I rather endorse that as it is a better offer than W10 and future os invasive like it.
Edited by vodkapl - 8/24/16 at 1:28am
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Sounds like another fail... Don't want to hate but what can they offer different than MS/Apple/Linux ?
Literally everything.

This ^

The comparison has already been made in this thread, but I'll mention it again: Just look at the performance leap of Vulkan over DirectX. That's what's possible when you build something from scratch based on modern principles, to replace something ancient and obsolete.

Windows and MacOS are both over 30 years old, Linux is 25.
How many other software programs are you running that were originally designed in the 80's? and probably still have pieces of source code from that time?
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Sounds like another fail... Don't want to hate but what can they offer different than MS/Apple/Linux ?
Literally everything.

This ^

The comparison has already been made in this thread, but I'll mention it again: Just look at the performance leap of Vulkan over DirectX. That's what's possible when you build something from scratch based on modern principles, to replace something ancient and obsolete.

Windows and MacOS are both over 30 years old, Linux is 25.
How many other software programs are you running that were originally designed in the 80's? and probably still have pieces of source code from that time?

Unix predates every other OS and while Linux was released 25 years ago it is another form of *nix, as is BSD (MacOS).

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This ^

The comparison has already been made in this thread, but I'll mention it again: Just look at the performance leap of Vulkan over DirectX. That's what's possible when you build something from scratch based on modern principles, to replace something ancient and obsolete.

Windows and MacOS are both over 30 years old, Linux is 25.
How many other software programs are you running that were originally designed in the 80's? and probably still have pieces of source code from that time?

What is with the hate against old code? Just because it was written years ago doesn't in any way imply it is bad code. I'd rather have a kernel that is 20 years old which doesn't need any updates because it has no problems and can't be improved, then one constantly getting updates or being rewritten.
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Built from the ground up to better integrate advertisements and data collection into the operating system.
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What is with the hate against old code? Just because it was written years ago doesn't in any way imply it is bad code. I'd rather have a kernel that is 20 years old which doesn't need any updates because it has no problems and can't be improved, then one constantly getting updates or being rewritten.

Are you running 25 year old hardware? Are you running hardware that is even compatible with 25 year old code without several layers of abstraction? No? THAT is why all the "hate" against old code.
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Are you running 25 year old hardware? Are you running hardware that is even compatible with 25 year old code without several layers of abstraction? No? THAT is why all the "hate" against old code.

Has every portion of that new hardware changed in the last 25 years where that code is no longer valid? Did some major new wave of software design denounce abstraction and interfacing while I was sleeping?

No. There is a very big difference between old code and bad code. Being old code does not imply its bad code, nor does being bad code imply its old or new. A well written interface and abstraction doesn't need to be replaced if it still efficiently, and securely performs the task it was written to accomplish.

Your argument at best is a red herring, while what it seems what you are concerned about is the accumulation of technical debt, and conflating it with the thought that it implies old code is inherently bad.

For all of that, you're still talking about Turing machines at the end of the day, and conceptually they CAN'T change much. x86 machines as well as the RISC of ARM are just a smaller subset of instructions to throw on the turing machine, and they haven't changed much either. Rewriting a driver for a new piece of hardware is one thing, but writing the management of the abstracted hardware doesn't need to change much over the years because a HDD is still an HDD, DDR3 is still DDR, a network controller is still a network controller.. etc.. etc.. etc..
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