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There are two camps of opinion on what MS is actually up to with announcements such as this one . The new business model under Nadella is the genesis of it. .

1. MS is trying to rid themselves of home and pro users as they are a major expense they could do without.

Camp #1 believers think that MS regards home and pro users as non-valued customers. MS is creating a cloud based business ideally suited to the needs of their Enterprise clients. The average user is not a profitable player in this space. There is also no constant revenue stream from subscription fees for services to offset the cost s of supporting multiple versions of an OS. There is little profit if any on an OS license from hardware sales. If you do not like this new business model, get lost. MS does not want or need you.
Well its a little bit extreme viewpoint but MS did many anti consumer things like this rollup fiasco so i cant fault them for it.
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When I went from W8.1 to W10 on one of my laptops it cut my battery life in half - from about 10.. 12h down to about 6h-ish. Apparently the CPU was running at 100% speed all the time. Probably was running all the time listening if I say perhaps something interesting wink.gif
So you lose battery life too with Win10
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@jagdtigger. I agree.

I think Camp#4 (primarily W7 users) is not overly pleased with this announcement either. They may be wondering if their say in things is also diminishing.
Edited by charon - 8/17/16 at 6:18am
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So you lose battery life too with Win10

 

My tablet picked up an extra hour and a half from 8.1 to 10.

 

Since we're on the topic of anecdotal experiences.

   
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ehhh i really don't want to use linux at home but that's looking inevitable

You don't have to, you can take any poison you like, cause' we're going to get poisoned either way.
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You don't have to, you can take any poison you like, cause' we're going to get poisoned either way.

 

At least with Windows 7, I can install it, grin and bear the updates, disable Windows Update entirely (don't forget to disable Background Intelligent Transfer Service too), and then get rid of the junk. Maybe. Or, just do one install session and then leave it disabled. I don't know.

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Updating NSA backdoor.exe
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Holy banana balls, people! Getcher tin foil hats and yrr pitch forks ready! The M$ GUB'MENT is coming fer you and wants access to yer compewter dayter!!

The hyperbole on OCN is real, ya'll. It's like most of you believe we actually live in the world of Jason Bourne or Enemy of the State. It seems like every time there is something related to Microsoft everyone gets bent around the axle and the talk just stinks of some kind of mass surveillance conspiracy. Who cares if Microsoft or Apple or Google or anyone else wants to control updates to your computer and collect legitimate statistics about your system.

What you all should be concerned with is the entirely unlicensed and unrestricted "internet of things" that is trying so very hard to become a household "thing." Smart fridge, smart watch, smart couch, smart toilet, smart coffee maker? Really? You people are whining about a computer operating system but make no mention of the things being pushed into the market that have a level of security my 7 year old could crack and which could be used to spill more PII faster than Niagara Falls spills water.

And honestly if you want to "hide" yourself then you need to disconnect and unplug entirely and go live in the Canadian Yukon or somewhere in northern Siberia.
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Holy banana balls, people! Getcher tin foil hats and yrr pitch forks ready! The M$ GUB'MENT is coming fer you and wants access to yer compewter dayter!!

The hyperbole on OCN is real, ya'll. It's like most of you believe we actually live in the world of Jason Bourne or Enemy of the State. It seems like every time there is something related to Microsoft everyone gets bent around the axle and the talk just stinks of some kind of mass surveillance conspiracy. Who cares if Microsoft or Apple or Google or anyone else wants to control updates to your computer and collect legitimate statistics about your system.

What you all should be concerned with is the entirely unlicensed and unrestricted "internet of things" that is trying so very hard to become a household "thing." Smart fridge, smart watch, smart couch, smart toilet, smart coffee maker? Really? You people are whining about a computer operating system but make no mention of the things being pushed into the market that have a level of security my 7 year old could crack and which could be used to spill more PII faster than Niagara Falls spills water.

And honestly if you want to "hide" yourself then you need to disconnect and unplug entirely and go live in the Canadian Yukon or somewhere in northern Siberia.
Not legitimate until we give them explicit permission(=/=puttingit into the EULA) they can collect it. Flat out saying it cant be disabled is straight illegal i think... The EULA of win10 basically allows MS to do whatever they want. If you like the thought that your files can be viewed, used, or even deleted without your consent then live in your dreamworld, but dont bash those who isnt ignorant like you!
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Holy banana balls, people! Getcher tin foil hats and yrr pitch forks ready! The M$ GUB'MENT is coming fer you and wants access to yer compewter dayter!!

The hyperbole on OCN is real, ya'll. It's like most of you believe we actually live in the world of Jason Bourne or Enemy of the State. It seems like every time there is something related to Microsoft everyone gets bent around the axle and the talk just stinks of some kind of mass surveillance conspiracy. Who cares if Microsoft or Apple or Google or anyone else wants to control updates to your computer and collect legitimate statistics about your system.

What you all should be concerned with is the entirely unlicensed and unrestricted "internet of things" that is trying so very hard to become a household "thing." Smart fridge, smart watch, smart couch, smart toilet, smart coffee maker? Really? You people are whining about a computer operating system but make no mention of the things being pushed into the market that have a level of security my 7 year old could crack and which could be used to spill more PII faster than Niagara Falls spills water.

And honestly if you want to "hide" yourself then you need to disconnect and unplug entirely and go live in the Canadian Yukon or somewhere in northern Siberia.
So we have to pick and choose? I'm sure a coffee maker where you can buy extra cream is as much at risk at leaking my CC information as Windows is.
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