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post #21 of 308
I've been blocking Microsoft addresses/servers since July 2015 on the last of 4 PCs still running Windows (Win7), in Avast's Firewall.
As the only games that is played are World of Tanks and World of Warships, I hoped to get more use out of the "powerful/expensive" computer by use it for photo and video editing too.

Nor the Pinnacle studio15 neither Corel Photo Paint Pro x3 got contact with some Microsoft server I couldn't install none of the purchased programs.
As both of them was dated versions (bought them 2010 I think, but still enough for our home editing needs). Both programs went in the garbage bin.

Windows, including Win7, is still not safe from telemetry, just because Microsoft is blocked, not even sure all Microsoft addresses/servers are blocked, Nvidia and Avast seems to be as good in telemetry as Microsoft. Also many free-ware's seems to require Internet access 24/7

Thats why 3 out of 4 of our PCs running Linux. Using Linux/GNU programs for our photo and video editing needs.
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I have had WU disabled on all 3 systems in my home since Oct 2015, no problems and it has not enabled itself like some people claim.
I check it a few times a week and it's disabled, no microsoft magic enabled it behind my back.
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Use WSUS, don't approve the update, never worry about it rolleyes.gif
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Based on your feedback


Based on who's feedback? This is getting old. The same people that demanded that an IE 11 cumulative security patch include non security patches, one of them being a Windows 10 ad?

In theory (a far fetched one to begin with) a cumulative update rollup would be ok if Microsoft hadn't given the bad example that it will use this as a tactic to shove people updates that they don't want, it's the all or nothing strategy. You want the security patches and some of the reliability ones? Here, you'll have to swallow the whole pack, including these telemetry updates, Windows 10 ads, updates to Windows update that remove options, whatever we decide next until 2020 / 2023.

Those arguing in favour of this don't know the implications. Bundling updates on a regular basis means that we will have trouble seeing what is the problem when instability ensues after one of them because you can't selectively uninstall one by one.

And bundling security with non-security updates? Now I want one single person to be able to bullcrap me by explaining how that is of any use to improve the security of your system.
Edited by tpi2007 - 8/15/16 at 5:52pm
 
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Besides the spyware telemetry updates being forced on us starting in October, there is the chance that a bad update will cause problems with our computers (and Ms has had a lot of bad updates in the past year or two). Blast miserable, misbegotten MS anyway (censor safe version of my feelings). I wish they would get rid of Nutella and his cronies! Even Ballsmore wasn't this bad!
     
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Maybe I'm reading this wrong but would this mean that people who install windows 7 or Windows 8 will just have to update their system once to be fully updated? If this is true then it's great for the vast majority of users.
    
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Originally Posted by startekee View Post

Maybe I'm reading this wrong but would this mean that people who install windows 7 or Windows 8 will just have to update their system once to be fully updated? If this is true then it's great for the vast majority of users.

Sure it will be great, if you don't mind MS spyware being installed.
     
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Originally Posted by whitrzac View Post

The only updates most people even cared about was the win10 nagware.

404error: Calamity not found

I'm with you mate.
This is mildly interesting news but definitely doesn't seem like an issue.
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post #29 of 308
Linux is there for you all.

So is Mac OS.

Or you can disable updates.

Seriously.

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What is everyone going on about? It said nothing about taking away the ability to schedule or defer updates on Windows 7 or 8. They're just rolling all the individual patches into one composite patch each month. Sure, someone might theoretically want to be butt hurt about not being able to pick and choose from every little patch, but I don't really care.
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Linux is there for you all.

GNU/Linux needs more developer attention before it can be a good desktop replacement for power users who play games. The desktop environments are borderline, though much improved from ten years ago. Driver support for GPUs is borderline to bad depending on if you're using nVidia or AMD respectively. Centralized management is still an obtuse chore. This sort of stuff needs to be ironed out. (Note that I'm someone who actually does like Debian, but I'm being real here.)
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