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What is everyone going on about? It said nothing about taking away the ability to schedule or defer updates on Windows 7 or 8. They're just rolling all the individual patches into one composite patch each month. Sure, someone might theoretically want to be butt hurt about not being able to pick and choose from every little patch, but I don't really care.
GNU/Linux needs more developer attention before it can be a good desktop replacement for power users who play games. The desktop environments are borderline, though much improved from ten years ago. Driver support for GPUs is borderline to bad depending on if you're using nVidia or AMD respectively. Centralized management is still an obtuse chore. This sort of stuff needs to be ironed out. (Note that I'm someone who actually does like Debian, but I'm being real here.)

Yeah and find out which one is the problem when it goes fubar will be simple to find. If its all bundled together. You cant remove the one that is problematic. The old way you could pick and choose avoiding the bad one when reports comes out.
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Ok - so moving forward - MS if you read this, can I suggest you take my request with heavy consideration?

Please batch updates from pre-service pack 1 updates, and after, into one large update - so that when we fresh install and haven't made a patched install with SP1/to-date-updates, that we can streamline the update process?!

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Yick, dislike roll up updates for the pure fact that if one of the updates can cause problems with the computer.

Especially with the experience of having to deal with a issue with a update screwing up several computers during a exercise. Just because the update disliked EMET. That would be even more a headache if it had been in a roll up.

But since the whole crap with the updates I now use the list that one OCNer has made for which updates are good or optional. Since then my W7 runs a whole lot better, especially since I removed the troublesome updates from my rig. Seems going to be more of a pain on which roll ups are good or not. Ugh, hope someone can find a way to split them.
     
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Yick, dislike roll up updates for the pure fact that if one of the updates can cause problems with the computer.

Especially with the experience of having to deal with a issue with a update screwing up several computers during a exercise. Just because the update disliked EMET. That would be even more a headache if it had been in a roll up.

But since the whole crap with the updates I now use the list that one OCNer has made for which updates are good or optional. Since then my W7 runs a whole lot better, especially since I removed the troublesome updates from my rig. Seems going to be more of a pain on which roll ups are good or not. Ugh, hope someone can find a way to split them.

Any chance you have proof on this or is it more subjective than objective perspective?
    
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Any chance you have proof on this or is it more subjective than objective perspective?

On which part? A update causing trouble or my W7 running better?

I ain't joking about seeing a update causing trouble in action. Had that experience on several gov computers during a exercise. I say this, lucky it was the non important stack and computers. If it had been our main stack...............that would of been a one hell of sh storm. Plus, our head IT would of been having little sleep for sure. Was having a none so fun time with Exchange and Outlook being arse hats as is during that exercise. Got to love when a Exchange server can't find another Exchange server because of some stupid DNS server not relaying records correctly.
     
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Any chance you have proof on this or is it more subjective than objective perspective?

On which part? A update causing trouble or my W7 running better?

I ain't joking about seeing a update causing trouble in action. Had that experience on several gov computers during a exercise. I say this, lucky it was the non important stack and computers. If it had been our main stack...............that would of been a one hell of sh storm. Plus, our head IT would of been having little sleep for sure. Was having a none so fun time with Exchange and Outlook being arse hats as is during that exercise. Got to love when a Exchange server can't find another Exchange server because of some stupid DNS server not relaying records correctly.

Oops, should have clarified.

I meant on W7 running better. I'm speaking from a consumer perspective - not a government or commercial aspect - but interesting non-the-less. I know and have seen updates cause trouble on various different levels in businesses, but not so much on the consumer side.
    
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Oops, should have clarified.

I meant on W7 running better. I'm speaking from a consumer perspective - not a government or commercial aspect - but interesting non-the-less. I know and have seen updates cause trouble on various different levels in businesses, but not so much on the consumer side.

My personal main rig had issues with some of the latest updates not playing nice with F@H and BOINC. Hence, why I check all updates now since I like my computer stable when it does those. Also reason I run several month old video drivers too. It a good thing gaming is not my main reason for my computers.

Plus, I dislike anything taking up resources when I fold or boinc. Another reason I run Lasso too.
     
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Oops, should have clarified.

I meant on W7 running better. I'm speaking from a consumer perspective - not a government or commercial aspect - but interesting non-the-less. I know and have seen updates cause trouble on various different levels in businesses, but not so much on the consumer side.

My personal main rig had issues with some of the latest updates not playing nice with F@H and BOINC. Hence, why I check all updates now since I like my computer stable when it does those. Also reason I run several month old video drivers too. It a good thing gaming is not my main reason for my computers.

Plus, I dislike anything taking up resources when I fold or boinc. Another reason I run Lasso too.

Makes sense. I'm not a F@H or BOINC person - never contributed.
    
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This change is a double-edged sword to be sure, but as long as they don't try to roll drivers into these updates, I think I'm OK with it.
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I really think that if you chose to disable updates on windows 7 that it will become unusable for the internet a lot quicker.

Windows 7 is on it's way out.Functionality is going to diminish over the next few years.Without updates that functionality will go away even quicker in my opinion.
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